Let's encourage technological innovation, Remember the Blue box beginnings of The apple Computer company.
You can be sure of "No innovation" if you control everything. Except for innovations which thwart your control. -----Original Message----- From: Bill Northrup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Stop the Wardriving ... Wirelessly! I agree that the technical portion of his request is on topic and in the interest of the list. I have been enjoying some fine conversation off list with many folks and taking everything offline from now on out of respect for the list. Enrique; Thanks for the tips but I've been around the war'whatever' block a few times. Again, I agree with the technical portions. BN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Enrique LaRoche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Bill Northrup" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 9:34 AM Subject: RE: [BAWUG] Stop the Wardriving ... Wirelessly! > >I disagree, he is spamming. In my opinion, his subject matter is > >disgusting. He might as well be talking about the wireless trading of > >kiddie porn. I don't find the condoning the killing of innocent American > >lives civil or germane either. > > Your Opinion is appreciated. However the subject is Germaine since it is a > common problem and a common interest to learn how to conduct a site survey, > It is educational and certainly enhances the understanding of wireless > networks and communication to have the practical ability to establish a > instant network. > While you may not like this cause, you may someday depend upon the knowlege > gained by people like them. Another real potential use for the knowlege > gained is in a disaster situation. Earthquake in particular. > Theses skills gained may allow someone to communicate critical information > in a disaster. > > I recommend you. > Look for "Wardriving" when you get the right equipment to do that, you can > designate a few of your participants to scan the area once you know the > location. > This means getting a card like Orinoco gold, and an (optional)external > antenna and simply going to the site and logging the AP's found. Then you > map those sites for future use. Another Keyword is "warchalking" this would > seem the best approach for your Idea. > Use a decent search engine for background look to the list (BAWUG) archives > for details. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David Young" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 5:04 PM > Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Stop the War ... Wirelessly! > > > > > > Steve Freedkin's message concerning ProgressivePortal.org pertains to > > wireless in the Bay Area. Wishing someone were aboard a doomed > airliner > > does not. I prefer, as a list subscriber, that the messages are civil > > and germane. > > > > Dave > > > > On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 03:49:06PM -0700, Bill Northrup wrote: > > > I wish you and your SPAM were on a particular jetliner. Instead of > being > > > some nay saying sissy pants, how about you going over there and hook > > > them up via wireless and give them a big hug and say sorry for > putting > > > buildings in the way of hijacked aircraft. Why don't you spend some > time > > > defending the freedom that you seem to enjoy. > > > > > > Grow up and get a job. > > > > > > BN > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Steve Freedkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:55 PM > > > Subject: [BAWUG] Stop the War ... Wirelessly! > > > > > > > > > > ProgressivePortal.org is an online activist Web site > > > > through which users have sent more than 2.3 million > > > > messages since May 2001, and more than 645,000 > > > > opposing attacking Iraq since Sept. 24, 2002. > > > > > > > > We want to set up computers that are wirelessly > > > > connected to the Internet to enable people to send > > > > letters immediately from demonstrations, on street > > > > corners, etc. > > > > > > > > We have three needs: > > > > > > > > (1) Someone who is tech savvy who can volunteer the > > > > time to set up wireless connectivity for our computers > > > > (currently we plan to use Mac notebooks, but PC > > > > notebooks would also be okay). Currently, we need this > > > > for locations in San Francisco, but would like to > > > > eventually be able to take the show elsewhere. We have > > > > a Sprint PCS account that can be used, but it will get > > > > very expensive very fast, so other wireless options > > > > are also needed. > > > > > > > > (2) Someone who can repair Apple PowerBooks -- we have > > > > two computers that are broken, and standard repair > > > > shops would charge more than the cost of replacing > > > > them > > > > > > > > (3) Sources for obtaining additional donated or > > > > inexpensive portable computers (Mac preferred) > > > > > > > > To see our site, visit > > > > http://www.progressiveportal.org > > > > > > > > If you are interested in helping or have suggestions, > > > > I hope to hear from you. > > > > > > > > Peace, > > > > > > > > Steve Freedkin > > > > Publisher > > > > ProgressivePortal.org > > > > sfreedkin-AT-yahoo.com (replace "-AT-" with "@") > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > > Do you Yahoo!? > > > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > > > > http://faith.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > > > -- > > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > -- > > David Young OJC Technologies > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Engineering from the Right Brain > > Urbana, IL * (217) 278-3933 > > -- > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > -- > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > -- general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
