Hello Michael, For what it's worth Australia is a hell of a lot closer and no one gives a crap about sadam, and it's the US fault he's in power and has lots of weapons in any case...
And yet again it's about money... vietnam was about rubber for tyres, bosnia was about running pipelines to get round the current ones through russia... and the pipeline through afgan is an extension... Hell the US was still trading ford cars with germany up until it entered the war... Yes, I don't see a pattern here at all, actually most of the dictators the US has tried to get rid of are their own doing... Your mess you clean it up... /2 cents... -- Best regards, evilbunny mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.cacert.org - Free Security Certificates http://www.sydneywireless.com - Telecommunications Freedom Sunday, October 6, 2002, 10:45:45 AM, you wrote: ML> Hyper militant? How can you say that with a straight face? Not only ML> does Saddam Hussein pose a clear and present danger to this country and ML> the Middle East, the Iraqi government has totally flaunted UN Security ML> resolutions time and time again. If the US takes military action it is ML> completely justified. Diplomacy certainly hasn't worked. ML> Let me also pose this question to you and others who think war with Iraq ML> is unjustified. Did you actively protest our military action in ML> Yugoslavia when we were bombing that nation's civilian population on ML> behalf of our allies in Europe? If there was ever an example of hyper ML> militancy it was that. Yugoslavia posed absolutely no danger to our ML> country or our interests. We should not have been there. ML> As to your comment about violence not being a solution. I'd think that ML> anyone who fought or lived through WWII would be more than happy to ML> dispute that view with you. ML> - Mike >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of benchun >> Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 4:52 PM >> To: Bill Northrup; Steve Freedkin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [BAWUG] Stop the War ... Wirelessly! >> >> >> maybe this is just me, but i fail to see what the >> impending war on iraq has to do with the events of >> 9/11... there is has yet to be any established link >> between the hijackers and iraq. (they were mostly >> from saudi arabia, and al-qaida is supported from >> many places, ranging from pakistan to egypt.) >> >> perhaps if mr. northrup were to investigate >> the matter, he might change his hyper-militant >> views to more accurately chart a path to a better >> world for all people. then again, maybe not. >> some people are just hell-bent on trying to make >> violence a solution, despite having all of human >> history to illustrate the fallacy of that view. >> >> ben >> >> ps. i have a job, thanks. >> >> >> >> At 03:49 PM 10/5/2002, Bill Northrup wrote: >> >I wish you and your SPAM were on a particular jetliner. Instead of >> >being some nay saying sissy pants, how about you going over >> there and >> >hook them up via wireless and give them a big hug and say sorry for >> >putting buildings in the way of hijacked aircraft. Why don't >> you spend >> >some time defending the freedom that you seem to enjoy. >> > >> >Grow up and get a job. >> > >> >BN >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Steve Freedkin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 2:55 PM >> >Subject: [BAWUG] Stop the War ... Wirelessly! >> > >> > >> > > ProgressivePortal.org is an online activist Web site >> through which >> > > users have sent more than 2.3 million messages since May >> 2001, and >> > > more than 645,000 opposing attacking Iraq since Sept. 24, 2002. >> > > >> > > We want to set up computers that are wirelessly >> > > connected to the Internet to enable people to send >> > > letters immediately from demonstrations, on street >> > > corners, etc. >> > > >> > > We have three needs: >> > > >> > > (1) Someone who is tech savvy who can volunteer the >> > > time to set up wireless connectivity for our computers >> (currently we >> > > plan to use Mac notebooks, but PC notebooks would also be okay). >> > > Currently, we need this for locations in San Francisco, but would >> > > like to eventually be able to take the show elsewhere. We have >> > > a Sprint PCS account that can be used, but it will get >> > > very expensive very fast, so other wireless options >> > > are also needed. >> > > >> > > (2) Someone who can repair Apple PowerBooks -- we have >> > > two computers that are broken, and standard repair >> > > shops would charge more than the cost of replacing >> > > them >> > > >> > > (3) Sources for obtaining additional donated or >> > > inexpensive portable computers (Mac preferred) >> > > >> > > To see our site, visit >> > > http://www.progressiveportal.org >> > > >> > > If you are interested in helping or have suggestions, >> > > I hope to hear from you. >> > > >> > > Peace, >> > > >> > > Steve Freedkin >> > > Publisher >> > > ProgressivePortal.org >> > > sfreedkin-AT-yahoo.com (replace "-AT-" with "@") >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > __________________________________________________ >> > > Do you Yahoo!? >> > > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More >> > > http://faith.yahoo.com >> > > -- >> > > general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> >> > > [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> > >> >-- >> >general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> >> >[un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> -- >> general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> >> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >> >> ML> -- ML> general wireless list, a bawug thing <http://www.bawug.org/> ML> [un]subscribe: http://lists.bawug.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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