Hi.  I'm new on the list. =20

        Some of the issues you're discussing on this thread are being addressed
        by an IEEE 802 ECSG on link security (you can subscribe to the mailing
        list by sending "subscribe stds-802-linksec your-email" to
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        IMO, if they can fix .11i, the best they'll be able to do is to really
        approach wired equivalent security, which will not do away with the need
        for VPNs or other end-to-end protection.

I never even implied otherwise.

Jim
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