I apologize if this is not appropriate, just trying to help. We are member of WISPA and helping some WISP's purchase equipment. Please contact me off list, can give pricing & want to support the WISPA members.
Don Renner Helix Technologies, Inc. 8550 W. Main St. French Lick, IN 47432 812-936-2525 office 812-936-2006 fax 812-521-1876 cell -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 12:10 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices I'll make some calls tomorrow and see what the distributors say. Travis Johnson wrote: > Hi, > > There are so many risks that _someone_ is going to have to assume. > Example: If I say "put me down for 20 units and here's my credit > card". You place the order with the distributor, and I get my items. > However, either the distributor will put each order in different names > (thus, once the boss finds out it will be done), or they all go under > a single name. Now, with my credit card being charged, but only a > single invoice created for the "big" order, I can contact my credit > card company and file a chargeback. There will be no invoice for the > purchase, and nothing in my name. I just got 20 radios for free and > the distributor just lost big money. > > This is only one example. There are 10 other risks to this "project" > and someone will have to take them all... > > Why not just lease your CPE? Even doing 25 at a time, I think you can > get 30 or 60 days before your first payment. > > Travis > Microserv > > Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >> Basically what I propose (in a nutshell) is going to a the >> distrobuters and saying this. I have ten or twenty or whatever WISPs >> and we all want to buy ten units of *insert brand here* and have them >> all shipped to different addresses and charged to different >> accounts. What are you willing to do to accomidate us? I know >> there are a number of distobuters out there. Ones that do millions >> worth of gear all the way down to ones that operate WISPs and became >> resellers of the gear they use in order to get their volume up. If >> ten people can install ten a month. That is 1200 a year. If we >> look, I bet there is a reseller somewhere who wants to increase >> volume by 1200 a year. 5k a year wouldn't be stretching the >> imagination too far either. >> >> Am I dumb here guys? Why wouldn't this work? >> >> Tom DeReggi wrote: >> >>> Charles, >>> >>> I fully second your post. >>> Well said. >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Wu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 9:25 PM >>> Subject: RE: [WISPA] INSURANCE NOW canopy prices >>> >>> >>> <snip> >>> You would think it would work that way, but Volume Buying ends up >>> eating >>> the organization and the organization becomes caught up in being a >>> volume club. >>> </snip> >>> >>> We all know that there's more to a WISP than just putting up an AP and >>> getting a T1 line >>> >>> Having run both a WISP and a distribution company, I can personally >>> attest >>> to the fact that there's more to distribution (which is what your >>> proposing) >>> than breaking up a 500 pack amongst WISP >>> >>> Have you considered all the risks / implications that the buying group >>> faces? For starters, there's the question of payment -- given that the >>> buying group has no / limited credit, chances are that any vendor will >>> require cash up front for the purchase >>> >>> So, for example, say Motorola Canopy is the product WISPA chooses >>> Then WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ $100k to purchase that >>> 500 >>> pack (at say, $200 / unit for simplicity's sake) >>> Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a warehouse to store >>> stuff >>> Then, WISPA / Buying Group needs to come up w/ a shipper/logistics >>> guy to >>> repackage / ship stuff >>> >>> On top of that, chances are, 50% of the WISPs who committed to >>> purchasing >>> the packs will renege and/or delay their deliveries due to unforseen >>> things >>> that always happen in deployments (e.g., lightning, customers don't >>> sign >>> on, interference from competitor, DSL coming to town) >>> >>> So now, WISPA / Buying Group needs to hire a sales guy to sell >>> excess units >>> >>> Now, you've added overhead (and you need to add an administrative fee / >>> margin to compensate) >>> >>> In the meantime, either >>> >>> 1. Motorola to announce a 50% price reduction in their Canopy line, >>> and all >>> WISPA members now wanting the new lower price (therefore causing a huge >>> loss) >>> 2. Trango (or some other company) to come out w/ the new "flavor of the >>> month" and no one wanting the inventory anymore, sticking WISPA w/ >>> $100k >>> worth of boat anchors >>> >>> -Charles >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------- >>> CWLab >>> Technology Architects >>> http://www.cwlab.com >>> >> > -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 "Caught up in the Air" 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
