I have two things in place right now.
MRTG type data coming right off of the routers.
http://64.146.186.1:81/graphs/iface/eth1-upstream/
http://64.146.146.1:81/graphs/iface/eth1%2Duplink/

And, I have a cool bit tracking program that uses the netflow data generated by my routers.
http://radius.odessaoffice.com/iptrack/topusers.php

The next upgrade I'll get will be a column added to the stats so that I can see the top 5 or 10 ports that each customer uses each day. I'll know a lot more about what they are doing when I get that data.

Marlon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Niemantsverdriet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps


How are you guys tracking usage? What program are you using to measure
it and are you measureing every bit or an average?

On 12/22/06, Tom DeReggi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have not had the guts to do what Marlon does. But that doesn't mean there
isn't merit in his method.
Part of the reason is we put in place technology that allows the use of
available bandwdith with limited impact to other users, therefore taking
away some of the need to charge for it, if it was jsut going unused any way. in otherwords Bandwdith allocated on a fair weighted queuing priority basis.

The advatnage of Marlon's model, is he has the data to pick and chose
customers. The high bandwdith hogs gets given to the competition or pay.
The second a network starts reaching capacity and the market penetration
doesn't, it becomes feasible to be happy not keeping all customers, instead
you pick the most profitable customers.  The facts are the the network
supports it or it doesn't, the provider can afford to upgrade or they can't.
What I'm learning is, selling 10mbps peak speeds allows you to play the
Comcast game, and beat them at it.

I'm selling unlimited now, but its important to track the usage. That might have to change, as people start using the links to replace their VCRs. The reality is, eventuality one will have to port limit or charge per bit. I'm jsut avoiding that day until it has to happen, so I don't lose customers for
the greater good, unless I have to.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message -----
From: "David E. Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] bits per mbps


> Marlon K. Schafer (509) 982-2181 wrote:
>
>> First, I have to figure out how many kbps a gig of download would be.
>> Specifically, I've got a couple of customers doing 50 gigs per month.
>> How many kbps does it take to generate that?
>
> Assuming a month is 30 days (nice round number), 50GB/month is about
> 161kbps, all the time. That's the equivalent of, say, leaving a
> high-quality streaming radio station running, or a low-quality video
> feed like gbs.tv.
>
> I'm staying out of the rest of the discussion, because I'm violently
> allergic to pay-by-the-bit pricing. It may make good sense to the
> bookkeeper, but with streaming media (YouTube, Google Video), big
> downloadable media (iTunes movies, Amazon Unbox), and giant software
> downloads (World of Warcraft and just about every other MMORPG) > becoming
> more prevalent, I think it's just gonna seriously annoy your users in
> the long term.
>
> David Smith
> MVN.net
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