This should maybe be a new thread, and I'm not sure Tom is making this point 
or not,, but I agree, would you trust your CORE to anything but Cisco? I'm 
not sure I would. 

Josh 

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From: "Tom DeReggi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 16 Mar 2008 20:45:36 -0500
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Intel-based 4-port Fast Ethernet Card - StarOS

> > What does MT do that Star doesn't do in the routing arena?
> 
> I'll add that both platforms have the same flaw.  They use 
> OpenSource, but then close the system. Seems kind of opposite the purpose.
> On a possitive note, I have to say, Mikrotik has really innovated 
> their platform, with a lot of their own code and solutions, to solve 
> problems that couldn't be solved using the previous alternative 
> popular open source apps usually used for those purposes.  My hats 
> goes off  to them.
> 
> But the risk that keeps popping up is...  They aren't Cisco, in the 
> terms of 1000's of top tier people to research and support 
> development of their platform. Can we trust MT's or any small 
> player's proprietary code, for the long haul?  In the Open Source 
> world, there is a clear answer to that, make it open source, and if 
> the developer stops maintaining it, there is a way to get someone to 
> take over maintaining it, without loosing the investment into the platform.
> 
> I'm not saying companies like MT and STAROS should make their 
> proprietary code into open source. But what I like is the ability to 
> ADD packages to an existing platform.
> 
> I can give an example, of a monthy ago, when I installed a MT router 
> because , I thought the pretty GUI would make a good impression, but 
> then 24hours later I had to pull it because there was no way for me 
> to test the performance of the link remotely, easilly for my 
> specific situation. I needed Iperf on the router. It was a better 
> choice to use a standard Linux system, basic native routing, because 
> it also enabled Iperf.
> 
> MT and STAROS are two nice products, but this discussion doesn't 
> stop there.
> 
> For example ImageStream, even though a bit more expensive, they 
> provide an Open system. Their OS is maintained and preloaded with a 
> few bells and whistles.  But you CAN LOAD your own code ALSO.
> 
> Then there is Voyeta.  Its based on 2.6 Kernal of Linux, and its 
> 100% open source, and give the security of using a maintained OS 
> (for example BGP and QUAGGA fixes). But you can pay extra for 
> maintenance and quicker updates.
> 
> MT and STARTOS, will stay winners for high end WIFI Radio CPE and 
> APs. But when it comes to Core Routers, to stay competitive, they 
> really need to open the platform, and allow third party modules to 
> be loaded by owners or developers.  Sure, there is the arguement 
> that "CISCO DOESN"T DO  THAT", but they aren't Cisco.
> 
> Tom DeReggi
> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
> 
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