Since when does Postini require a 3-year commitment? IMO there is more to the 
Frontbridge saga and even Barracuda can not fix 
the hiccups of MS Exchange.




Frank Muto
Postini - Google Apps Distributor
www.SecureEmailPlus.com






----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Thomas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:10 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda


> Travis, because there is an element of control that you lose when you
> outsource. I have a client that got really upset when an email that was
> addressed to 3 companies only made it to one employee. Long story short,
> Frontbridge saw that the email came into their servers, but only one
> copy went out to 1 of the companies employees. This took *several* hours
> and 3 different Frontbridge employees to find out.  If this client had
> been using a Barracuda, then there wouldn't have been a problem. Before
> you start to flame me, I know that you aren't supposed to use email in
> this manner, i.e. mission critical, time sensitive Purchase orders from
> Asia to the US, but this client did, and they were furious. Another
> reason I have a problem is that both Frontbridge and Postini *require* a
> 3 year commitment, and you may not have to pay up front, but once you
> sign on, they have you for 3 years. I have a BIG problem with any
> business that operates like that. In this instance, the cleint is now
> stuck with Frontbridge for 2 1/2 years, and their attitude when asked
> about a refund was "tough, you agreed to a 3 year term, and we have your
> money."
>
> John Thomas
>
>
> Travis Johnson wrote:
>> And on another thought... with that much junk mail, why not use a
>> service that blocks the spam BEFORE it uses your bandwidth and
>> resources? Like Postini... or others.
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Frank Muto wrote:
>>> Just a thought, unless you have a 600 or better unit, you are running 
>>> 1x10/100 Ethernet on 100-400 units vs. 2xGigabit on 
>>> to
>>> 600-1000 units, IMO creating a bottleneck even with low to moderate user 
>>> accounts. This is where most of our cross-over 
>>> sales
>>> are from, in the lower model units. With the amount of junk email flying 
>>> around out there, even active user accounts 
>>> under
>>> 250 are pulling in substantial amounts of junk and direct harvest attacks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Frank Muto
>>> www.secureemailplus.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Mac Dearman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 5:13 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kurt,
>>>>
>>>>  What firmware are you running?
>>>> How many emails are you filtering?
>>>> Have you done a "hard reboot" on it lately?
>>>> How many Spam emails are you killing per hour? Per day? (There is a Daily
>>>> Traffic graph/email that tell you this)
>>>>
>>>> I know mine too (Cuda) is sluggish, but it's the amount of incoming spam
>>>> that is bogging us down. We are getting hammered (and have been for months)
>>>> by spam in excess of 500,000 per 24 hours.
>>>>
>>>> I will agree - Cuda is a PITA and we will begin testing with Jeremy Davis
>>>> this week. He hosts the backend (web hosting, email, radius, 
>>>> Freeside...etc)
>>>> for a bunch of other WISPs including SPAM filtering - My fingers are 
>>>> crossed
>>>> and if you will holler at me off list later this week I will give you a
>>>> report on how things are going.
>>>>
>>>> Mac
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 11:00 AM
>>>>> To: 'WISPA General List'
>>>>> Subject: [WISPA] alternative to Barracuda
>>>>>
>>>>> Has anyone used this spam firewall? http://www.untangle.com
>>>>> <http://www.untangle.com/>  it is free to install on any server. I have
>>>>> a
>>>>> Barracuda SF200 and this thing is making me angry. It is so slow I
>>>>> don't
>>>>> even bother trying to log into it. It times out constantly and is so
>>>>> un-responsive. When it does work it takes a min of 30 seconds to change
>>>>> pages and that's when it is working properly. Its not overloaded I only
>>>>> got
>>>>> <200 email addresses and its rated for 500.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking for anything this Barracuda junk is not worth the $500 year
>>>>> subscription when you can't even log into it.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>>>> WAVELINC
>>>>> P.O. Box 126
>>>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>>>> 419-562-6405
>>>>> www.wavelinc.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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