I'd argue that FCC does not have the right to pass judgement on one's 
management of their network, and recently spoke to several house commmittees 
on that topic.
However, Provisions are required to make palyers pay nice with each other.
You are right it is not just about Bit toerrent and VOIP. What about Email?

What happens when a large carrier decides who they will and wonl;t accept 
Email from? What if the sender did have a violation at one time, but it was 
then cured?
How long can one provider hold a grudge over another?
I can share a recent example, where there was a legitimate violation, the 
violation was responsibly cured immeidately, but the grudge left my ISP 
unable to send their ISP mail for 4 months.
It took a lot of bad PR and complaints to get it fixed.  The problem is the 
one ISP didn't want to enable methods for other ISPs to contact them. There 
was no obligation to help fix the problems preventing the other ISP's 
legitimate Email delivery.  Nor was there any financial benefit to doing so.

My point is ISP should be required to make mechanisms available to be 
contacted by otehr ISPs, to work out disputes. Sorta liek Part 90, an 
obligation to cooperate. So false conclusions aren;t made that cause the 
smaller weaker ISP to be irrversibly harmed.

Martins war against Comcast is a necessary war. It sets the precidence that 
these Netetrality blocking won't expand as a strategic advanatage to harm 
their competitors.

What would happen to your Email company, If tommorrow, COMCAST deicded to no 
longer accept your Email?  Well, you might win, as you are now affiliated 
with a goliath like Google. But if it occured 2 years ago, when it was just 
Postini, what would have been the outcome?


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Muto" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking


> Martin is on his high horse again about Net Neutrality. Most of this stems 
> from the 2005 Madison River BS when they were
> blocking VOIP and in Oct 2007 when Comcast was blocking BitTorrent. Both 
> parties have since then reached an agreement to work
> together.
>
> Martin some how thinks the FCC "principles" of NN are law and that he, 
> (not the FCC is, my own emphasis added) "ready,
> willing and able," to prevent broadband internet service providers from 
> irrationally interfering with their subscribers'
> internet access.
> http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSN2525077120080225
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>>From the article referenced by Larry ;
> "FCC commissioners have said on several occasions that the Internet policy 
> statement is not enforceable, and the law is very
> clear on that basic point," wrote Joe Waz, senior vice president of 
> external affairs for Comcast. "The policy statement is
> not a set of rules. It doesn't have any binding effect. And the FCC has 
> never adopted rules in this area."
>
> "The Supreme Court and Congress have made it clear that a federal agency 
> like the FCC can act either through rules or a
> complaint processes," Ammori responded in a blog post. "It's astounding 
> that a company with an army of high-priced lawyers
> would even try to dispute this, as it is a basic fact taught on day one of 
> any administrative law class."
>
> But Congress has said otherwise when it comes to taking it from "policy" 
> to law. Two laws have since been killed.
>
> 1. The Internet Freedom and Nondiscrimination Act of 2006 would have 
> prohibited the use of admission control to determine
> network traffic priority. The legislation was approved by the House 
> Judiciary committee but was never taken for vote,
> therefore failed to become law.
>
> 2. The Communications Opportunity, Promotion and Enhancement Act of 2006 
> was introduced in the US House of Representatives,
> referencing the principles of the FCC and authorizing fines up to $750,000 
> for infractions. It passed full House of
> Representatives failed to become law when it was filibustered in the 
> Senate.
>
> The FCC IMO has not met their ancillary jurisdiction powers for what they 
> feel they can do to Comcast. This whole NN debate
> has matters of opinion on both sides of the issue and should be debated 
> openly for public review and comment.
>
> Internet access is one thing, how about email and websites maxing out 
> their limits? Am I as a host provider for these
> services, not allowed to shut down an account for going over a mailbox 
> limit, or a website that goes over their bandwidth use
> or storage allocation? I can and do shut down accounts for overages after 
> providing sufficient notices to the customer, as
> per their AUP, TOS and billing agreements.
>
> Does the FCC have jurisdiction over all the bit-content passing on the 
> Internet network or control of a providers management
> of network resources?
>
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>
> Frank Muto
> www.SecureEmailPlus.com
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Larry Yunker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 11, 2008 10:48 AM
> Subject: [WISPA] Report: FCC to Punish Comcast Over Web Blocking
>
>
>> Looks like the FCC make take some action in enforcing its Net Neutrality
>> "Policies"
>>
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>> See: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2325396,00.asp
>>
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>> Depending on the scope of their ruling, this could have a significant 
>> impact
>> on how WISPs can control traffic on their own networks.
>>
>>
>>
>> Larry Yunker
>>
>> Network Consultant
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>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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