Don't you protect your NOC Muddy? My NOC is already locked and I pay $30 a month for alarm service. I have been doing that for 6 years already. I also have a camera system which monitors the front door and stores all the video of entry and exit to my NOC. I did this prior to CALEA because I want that level of security myself. It is just common sense to do these things as far as I am concerned. The rest of what you are saying sounds like FUD to me. Scriv
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:44 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is where I am sadly going to post to you sometime in the near > future... > > I told you so. > > And that will be the saddest day for all of us. > > I have no "unfounded fears". I just read and understand precisely what > these things mean. It won't be the first one, it won't be the second one. > It may not even be the first time someone's data doesn't work out for LEA > that things go sour. But it WILL happen. YOU will find yourself > explaining your mechanism for security, confidentiality, and so on. And > those are the aspects that will kill us. > > No matter what the folks who liason with you at the FCC or FBI, they don't > speak for the irritated prosecutors or agents who will not have had ny > quality control over the data themselves, and so will dump on YOU. And > they do intend for you to do this JUST LIKE THE PHONE COMPANY. That means > the locked buildings, the hard lines, the secure data storage, and on and > on. I'm not kidding. There's a reason the reports insist on you > explaining your plan for each of these things, including the chain of > custody for the data and your security plan. They expect a specific set of > circumstances, and to them, that's what CALEA means to them. > > How many times have we seen a big flap in the news because some low level > flunkie took a laptop home, or whatever? Those are only the things that > make the news. > > How long will you be collecting data? Are you going to have someone to > physically be there? If not, and if the location isn't secure, alarmed, > and locked, POOF. You're toast. And so's the case for the LEA. > > Your data has obvious gaps in the packets... Do you think that "there's > packet loss between the access point and my collection point" going to > mollify someone wanting to make an example of you? Nope. First rule of > law... if you can't prosecute the criminal, get the guy watching him...". > YOU will be the target and they'll come guns blazing. It would be better > for you to say you can't do it, than to do it and then let them down. > > > > > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > <insert witty tagline here> > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 12:18 AM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Topic change - Trade Association > Was:Report:FCCtoPunishComcast Over Web Blocking > > > > On Sun, 13 Jul 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >>Forrest, let me get back to the very old conversation about why > >>WISPA should organized at least 1500 filings to the FCC by every > >>WISP they could get to act, to say "This cannot be done". > > > > Your fears are unfounded and not based in reality. I understand, > > now, why you think it will cost so much. You are simply incorrect > > in nearly all of your assumptions. Have you even read the standard? > > The Law? Nowhere in either will you find ANY of what you are > > talking about. > > > >>3. Once your data is collected, it must be remain secure. You > >>must have a safe or a vault in which to keep it, expressly and > >>solely for the purpose of > > > > This is ludicrous. 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