In this area about 300 square miles.
But we have service territories stretching about 250 miles east to west 
across Utah and Nevada.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] NOGO's


> Wow Chuck! You've got it covered! How may square miles dor you service?
> -RickG
>
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 11:44 PM, Chuck McCown - 3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> 1% or less
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Travis Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:30 PM
>> Subject: [WISPA] NOGO's
>>
>>
>>> Along a different line... What is everyone's percentage on NOGO's
>>> (that's what we call people we try to install and can't get a good
>>> enough signal)? Ours was quite a bit higher than I thought when I looked
>>> a few days ago... Out of 1,500+ completed installs during the last 12
>>> months, we had 208 people we couldn't install successfully. If we only
>>> had more time to find more tower locations... :(
>>>
>>> Travis
>>> Microserv
>>>
>>> Chuck McCown - 3 wrote:
>>>> We always assume we will get a signal.  We are rarely wrong.
>>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>>>   From: Travis Johnson
>>>>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List
>>>>   Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:07 PM
>>>>   Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik
>>>> disconnectissueOct7th, 2008
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   So there are people that don't roll a truck because some software 
>>>> says
>>>> you may not be able to get a connection? That seems like a pretty poor
>>>> idea to me... we have clients that we had to try 3 or 4 different 
>>>> towers
>>>> with 2 or 3 different frequencies before we get a good signal. This
>>>> "tool" may have disqualified that customer, yet we got them installed.
>>>>
>>>>   Plus, how do you know if you want to make their location your next
>>>> repeater to service that area if you just tell them no over the phone? 
>>>> ;)
>>>>
>>>>   Travis
>>>>   Microserv
>>>>
>>>>   Brian Webster wrote:
>>>> On the topic of knowing if the lead was qualified and you could offer
>>>> service to that lead location (start shameless plug), I know of a 
>>>> company
>>>> that can provide you with an inexpensive tool to do a lookup by address
>>>> and
>>>> give the answer while still on the phone...... As some of the folks on
>>>> this
>>>> list who already use it for their opinion of how well it works and
>>>> increases
>>>> productivity and decrease truck rolls to bad installs.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank You,
>>>> Brian Webster
>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>> Behalf Of RickG
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:46 PM
>>>> To: WISPA General List
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik
>>>> disconnectissueOct7th, 2008
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Great post Tom!
>>>> As I mentioned earlier, we used to give $20. A study by my marketing
>>>> person showed 90% of our new installs were referrals. The interesting
>>>> part was when asked, the referrer said they would've provided the
>>>> referral whether or not the $20 was offered.
>>>> -RickG
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 12:55 PM, Tom DeReggi 
>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>   1. Anyone have any idea what percentage of customers provide 
>>>> referrals,
>>>>     with
>>>>   a program like "free month for each referral"?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Has anyone asked their customers that have not provided referrals,
>>>> what
>>>> would be adequate incentive for them to be willing to?
>>>>
>>>> 3. How well do these programs work for residential versus business?
>>>>
>>>> I'm just asking because... Some of our customers have said that the did
>>>>     not
>>>>   refer because....
>>>> a)  its against their corporate policy to give referrals.
>>>> b) afraid their service would slow down because, there would be less
>>>> capacity available to themselves afterwords.
>>>> c) they did not want to be held accountable for their implied
>>>> indorsement,
>>>> if service for the new referred to company did not work out well.
>>>> d) the compensation amounts were not significant enough for them to
>>>> extend
>>>> the effort, or track it..
>>>> e) There job was not to be our salesman, that was our job.
>>>> f) They already refer, and they'd already do that regardless of getting
>>>>     any
>>>>   payment compensation, so compensation unnecessary. They'd rather us 
>>>> put
>>>>     that
>>>>   money into maintaining/upgrading our network.
>>>> g) It was unclear whether the appropriate person would get 
>>>> compensation.
>>>>     For
>>>>   example, if a employee made the referral, they personally would have
>>>> very
>>>> little benefit for their employer to save and get a month free.
>>>>
>>>> What I'm most interested in is.... What would encourage a higher number
>>>> of
>>>> customers to start referring "qualified" leads.
>>>>
>>>> One potential negative I predicted was that referrals would come in as
>>>> "unqualified leads". Previously leads came in for areas that we could 
>>>> not
>>>> serve.
>>>> I made that mistake advertising residential in the yelloe pages. So 
>>>> much
>>>>     of
>>>>   my time was wasted on leads that would never be feasible to close.
>>>> Just doing the Google map pre-surveys would kill half the day, and 
>>>> could
>>>> burry productivity for a small staffed company. Leads aren;t good, 
>>>> unless
>>>> there is a high chance that the lead will materialize. So this brings 
>>>> me
>>>> back to.... How will the promotion incourage the customer to bring in
>>>> qualified leads? How will the customer understand who would be 
>>>> qualified?
>>>> Thats why I like stipulatons such as.... We pay you X, if you refer a
>>>> customer "in your building" or "in your neighborhood", or "within 1/2
>>>> mile
>>>> of your address". Etc Etc.
>>>>
>>>> Tom DeReggi
>>>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc
>>>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Steve Barnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 10:09 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect
>>>> issueOct7th, 2008
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     How is the MT/Tranzeo Beta Firmware working?  I have issues when 
>>>> the
>>>> disconnect happens the AP shows horrible signals from the Tranzeo's
>>>> (-105 to -113) but if you start a ping to that radio it drops back to
>>>> -69.  Is this resolved as well?  If I reboot the AP all the signals are
>>>> fine.
>>>>
>>>> Steve Barnes
>>>> RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
>>>> Behalf Of D. Ryan Spott
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 8:03 PM
>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
>>>> Cc: Tranzeo Support
>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] [Tranzeo] New Update - Tranzeo/Mtik disconnect
>>>> issueOct 7th, 2008
>>>>
>>>> Since Damian has made this public, I guess I can talk about this
>>>> testing....
>>>>
>>>> I have been using their beta software for over 2 weeks now and I have
>>>> uptimes that long as well.
>>>>
>>>> I will not disagree with Damian regarding the mtik patch. :)
>>>>
>>>> This **IS** an Mtik issue and affects more than just Tranzeo devices.
>>>>
>>>> ryan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 7, 2008, at 2:30 PM, Damian Wallace wrote:
>>>>
>>>>       MT has made several betas available for testing.  The results are
>>>> promising, but we aren't running real clients on the MT.
>>>>
>>>> We also have an extremely hacky way of dealing with this issue.  We
>>>> have
>>>> an alpha available for this on a Non-Supported basis.  When this
>>>> feature
>>>> is turned on, you have to reboot the AP when management changes like
>>>> channel are made.
>>>>
>>>> You can get a copy of the alpha by emailing support.  They will send
>>>> you
>>>> a copy of the firmware and a warning that this breaks a lot of ways AP
>>>> send management frames, and that we don't support it.  We think you
>>>> are
>>>> better off to use the Microtik patch since it should solve the problem
>>>> for all units, not just Tranzeos.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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