Rick,

Just curious, where is this ISP you took over?

Randy


RickG wrote:
> Wow, with all that bandwidth, I'm surprised you dont offer higher speeds.
>
> Technically speaking, the download & upload price is the same. From a
> cost standpoint, I allocate the download & upload separately because I
> am "forced" to pay dearly ($1200/month) to AT&T for my dual T1's which
> are required for "decent" upload speeds. Right now, my traffic is
> split so all port 80 traffic flows though the 4Mbps x 2Mbps connection
> through Time Warner which runs over $500/month. This works fairly well
> for now since about half the traffic is web browsing. When I bought
> this WISP there was no management, monitoring or reporting. I took
> care of the management & monitoring and I'm working on the reporting.
> The best thing I've done is replace the StarOS firewall with Mikrotik
> and set up traffic priority.
> Whew! Lots of work. At any rate, I'm working on my upstream connection
> next. I really need to get the cost down.
>
> Thanks! -RickG
>
> On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> Rick,
>>
>> Yes, all of our packages are symmetrical speeds (same download and upload).
>> So if they buy our 512k package, they get 512k down x 512k up all the time.
>> They are not "dedicated" connections, but rather you get what you pay for
>> connections. We still oversubscribe users on an AP, but only to the point
>> where each AP is running around 60% capacity during peak times, thus leaving
>> room for bursts, etc. We graph and monitor every single AP (over 200 of
>> them) and every single user (bandwidth, packets, RSSI, etc.) so we always
>> know what's happening on our network.
>>
>> We currently have three full OC-3 (155Mbps) dedicated connections to the
>> backbone. On average, we pay $40/meg for bandwidth. Why is your upload price
>> different than your download price?
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> RickG wrote:
>>
>> Travis,
>>
>> Nice work! Therefore, you are selling dedicated bandwidth to all of
>> your customers. In other words, if all your customers run speed test
>> at the same time they will get what their plan allows. If you dont
>> mind, I have a few questions:
>> Is the above scenario true for upload speed as well as download speed?
>> What are you paying for your upstream connection?
>> What type of upstream connection do you have?
>>
>> I'd like to be there and I keep hoping cheap bandwidth comes my way.
>> When you are paying $150/meg for download and $400/meg for upload, the
>> business model is tough.
>>
>> -RickG
>>
>> BTW: I'd take this offlist if you prefer but I think this is a problem
>> that many us us small WISP's face.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Every customer can get the speed they are paying for ANY time they run a
>> speed test. We offer packages from 512k to 2.5meg for residential customers
>> and they always get what they pay for (download AND upload, which is the
>> same for all of our packages).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> RickG wrote:
>>
>> Travis,
>>
>> If I understand this correctly, you have at least 1Mbps or higher of
>> bandwidth for every customer?
>>
>> -RickG
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:34 PM, Travis Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> We deliver what the customers pay for. If they purchase a 1Mbps package,
>> they get 1Mbps 24x7 (with no monthly bit caps). Personally I have never
>> liked the "up to" speed packages... it's like going to Walmart and
>> buying milk. You can pay $3 for a full 1 gallon, or you can pay $2 for
>> "up to" a gallon (without really knowing how much you are going to get,
>> but it will be somewhere between nothing and a full gallon).
>>
>> Travis
>> Microserv
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser wrote:
>>
>>
>> Does anyone else here have customer/s that consume so much bandwidth that
>> you have to throttle them down after say 5 minutes of downloading. And what
>> do you tell them when they start complaining about the throttled down speed.
>> (they don't know your throttling them though)
>>
>>
>>
>> Kurt Fankhauser
>> WAVELINC
>> P.O. Box 126
>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>> 419-562-6405
>> www.wavelinc.com
>>
>>
>>
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