So you upgraded the cpu and the os from Windows 286, eh? Those were the days!
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Dude! 2 years ago, maybe three. Wow, I didn't know Windows 3.10 could run > so well! Sure makes life a lot easier. > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:05 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > > >> 286? When did you upgrade from your 8088? :) >> >> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Shoot, I've given up on some threads for the most part. I just pop on >>> once >>> in a while. >>> >>> As for 486, when did those come out? I need to get me one of them. I'll >>> bet they really rock compared to my 286! >>> >>> Have a great Christmas ol' friend! >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:58 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>> >>> >>>> Marlon >>>> >>>> I know you guys out there in the woods are a little behind but a whole >>>> day >>>> behind!!! >>>> >>>> Com'on dude. Its the fifth. >>>> >>>> If you don't change it now you are gonna be late for Christmas and boy >>>> is >>>> your family gonna be pissed!!! >>>> >>>> LOL >>>> >>>> Change the clock on that 486 machine already >>>> >>>> -B- >>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> >>>> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:56:35 >>>> To: WISPA General List<wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>> >>>> >>>> LOL Yeah. >>>> >>>> It's much easier to whine than it is to join and help improve things eh? >>>> >>>> Mark, you still fail to grasp the difference between working to change >>>> the >>>> rules while living within the ones that exist. >>>> >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:38 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>> >>>> >>>>> Wow...OK Who peed in the Muddy Water and hit the Frog????? >>>>> >>>>> Sheesh... >>>>> >>>>> -B- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>> And I won't be. I was once and put money into WISPA. When I think >>>>>> WISPA >>>>>> has the interests of all WISPS in mind when they act, then I'll >>>>>> financially >>>>>> support it. When WISPA goes to washington DC and represents to them, >>>>>> that >>>>>> we actually WANT to be regulated, I cannot support them. When WISPA >>>>>> consistently fights FOR all of us, and not just the narrow interests >>>>>> of >>>>>> those who want federal money or whatever, then I may again support >>>>>> WISPA >>>>>> financially. >>>>>> >>>>>> When the attitude that "consolidation and shaking out the smaller >>>>>> players" >>>>>> is a good thing goes away, then there's on more barrier down. It may >>>>>> not >>>>>> be >>>>>> official, but people who make decisions in WISPA have said that in the >>>>>> past. >>>>>> Sorry, you lost me with that one. Small business and "mom and pop" >>>>>> are >>>>>> the >>>>>> backbone of our economy and make up a huge segment of all the jobs in >>>>>> the >>>>>> whole country. >>>>>> >>>>>> Every other industry organization unabashedly opposes everything that >>>>>> costs >>>>>> them or can harm them, but the leadership continues to insist that >>>>>> somehow >>>>>> playing nice and agreeing to mandates and costs will buy us favor... >>>>>> All >>>>>> that happens is the mandates and agreements happen, the regulators >>>>>> change >>>>>> and all the "goodwill" supposedly bought evaportes, with the >>>>>> precedents >>>>>> and >>>>>> whatnot remain. Until they understand that Washington DC is NEVER our >>>>>> friend, never to be trusted, then we're just sheep waiting to get >>>>>> shorn. >>>>>> >>>>>> Until this fundamental approach changes, no way in good conscience can >>>>>> I >>>>>> put >>>>>> my name on what they do or give them money. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, that's just my opinion and it's not subject to "revision and >>>>>> extension". >>>>>> >>>>>> This same attitude is going on still. WISPA leadership is still >>>>>> talking >>>>>> about trying to out maneuver the big boys so as to make grants and >>>>>> loans >>>>>> available. Cripes. Yeah, like we're ever going to win the arm >>>>>> twisting >>>>>> contest to bend it in our direction? We don't collectively have that >>>>>> much >>>>>> money or lobbyists tin DC to get our names to the top of the >>>>>> rolodexes. >>>>>> We >>>>>> cannot win that fight with those rules. >>>>>> >>>>>> We have got to start selling the value of a thriving and diverse >>>>>> industry >>>>>> that exists solely due to lack of regulation and lack of governmental >>>>>> interference and that the big players cannot play our game effectively >>>>>> and >>>>>> that betting on the big guys is like buying Enron or Lehman stock. >>>>>> We >>>>>> will >>>>>> never be the providers to the masses, but there can never be >>>>>> affordable >>>>>> ubiquitous broadband without us. >>>>>> >>>>>> That might take some thought and creativity to compose the narration >>>>>> and >>>>>> it >>>>>> might take some skill to sell, but there's simply no rebuttal from >>>>>> Verizon >>>>>> that FIOS is ever going to make a lick of sense in a wide array of >>>>>> places. >>>>>> Or that in an era when Congress really, REALLY needs to get their >>>>>> fiscal >>>>>> act >>>>>> in order, that blowing vast sums to reach few people makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> It has to be about selling the value of who and what you are and why >>>>>> you >>>>>> are, not out muscling the big guys for a slice of pie. That can't be >>>>>> won. >>>>>> Further, it obliterations the differences between us and them. That >>>>>> DIFFERENCE is our strength, not our weakness. If you're not thinking >>>>>> in >>>>>> those terms, then some re-thinking needs to happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> What will attract membership is a consistent, clear message about how >>>>>> we >>>>>> have and are building a thriving and healthy industry, even in these >>>>>> economic times, due to the fact that WE ARE NOT THEM and then selling >>>>>> exactly who we are. The people coming back form DC need to talking >>>>>> about >>>>>> how they sold us so well that when we say we need protection from >>>>>> mandates >>>>>> and expensive intrusions, that they listened. The idea of going to >>>>>> DC >>>>>> and >>>>>> being a "we threw a toothpick in the cogs of the big guys and got some >>>>>> money >>>>>> for us" is self defeating. >>>>>> >>>>>> We need to be proactive, not reactive, we need a coherent message and >>>>>> a >>>>>> coherent brand. We need to be defensive of the very thing that makes >>>>>> it >>>>>> possible for our numbers to multiply - freedom to do business without >>>>>> regulatory overhead. We need to not be attempting to joust with the >>>>>> cable >>>>>> operators and telcos over what they want. We need to present >>>>>> something >>>>>> more >>>>>> compelling than "feed our gaping maw so we c an continue our mediocre >>>>>> performance" that the othe guys play. >>>>>> >>>>>> And no, don't tell me to "run for WISPA office". Agitators like >>>>>> myself >>>>>> don't win popularity contests. Besides, I won't put my name on the >>>>>> organization until it changes. I prefer poking a stick in the >>>>>> hornets >>>>>> nest, to letting stuff go along quietly. I've never found that >>>>>> emulating >>>>>> someone else is the sure-fire way to beat them. That is not >>>>>> conducive >>>>>> to >>>>>> winning anything. Go for the whole banana, go for broke, or don't >>>>>> bother. >>>>>> Lead, follow, or get out of the way... I spent the first half of my >>>>>> life >>>>>> being compliant and found life has gotten too short. So, love me or >>>>>> hate >>>>>> me, but for pity's sakes, grow a spine and act like real men with >>>>>> original >>>>>> ideas when you go to lobby DC. The world is so absent real >>>>>> leadership >>>>>> that >>>>>> even the mediocre would stand out if they make an effort these days. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am firmly convinced you could make a serious impact if you think >>>>>> outside >>>>>> the box of present conventions. The whole notion of "raising >>>>>> broadband's >>>>>> definition" to justify federal handouts to industry is so small, so >>>>>> weak, >>>>>> such tired thinking that surely a better notion can be sold. >>>>>> >>>>>> Of course, if that's the best the "membership" can come up with... >>>>>> hell, >>>>>> we >>>>>> probably deserve our fate.. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ok, soapbox gone... >>>>>> >>>>>> I am ever so late today... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>> <insert witty tagline here> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:45 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Tom DeReggi wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am open to feedback from you, on what your opinions are, so we >>>>>>>> can decide on a WISPA policy for those questions. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tom, don't get caught up in arguments with him. He is not a WISPA >>>>>>> member (unless that's changed) and as such, his opinion is NOT valid >>>>>>> in shaping WISPA policy. That is a member's right, not his. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> ******************************************************************** >>>>>>> * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* >>>>>>> * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * >>>>>>> * http://www.wispa.org/ * WISPA Board Member * >>>>>>> * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * >>>>>>> ******************************************************************** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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