How and why? I've been so busy doing installs that there are a lot of things I'm way out of touch on. marlon
----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Hammett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > xHz hasn't been the primary measurement of CPU performance in about 4 > years. > A 1.7 GHz processor today can beat the snot out of a 4 GHz+ processor of > yesteryear. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 10:28 PM > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > >> Grin >> >> I remember putting a 286 upgrade card into what must have been an ISA >> slot >> on my old Tandy 1000. Man, that made the F19 game run SOOOOOOO much >> smoother! >> >> I don't mess with pc's much anymore. What speeds are machines running >> at? >> I was just looking at a new one for the front office. I can't find >> anything >> running much faster than 2 or 2.5 ghz unless I want to spend a lot more >> money than a machine running email and quickbooks should take. (I'll >> never >> do another one of those laptop based small Dell POS machines!!! Came in >> with a bad board on it, now they have to send out another tech to fix >> broken >> stuff. junk) >> >> laters, >> marlon >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:21 PM >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >> >> >>> So you upgraded the cpu and the os from Windows 286, eh? Those were the >>> days! >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>>> Dude! 2 years ago, maybe three. Wow, I didn't know Windows 3.10 could >>>> run >>>> so well! Sure makes life a lot easier. >>>> marlon >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:05 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>> >>>> >>>>> 286? When did you upgrade from your 8088? :) >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Marlon K. Schafer >>>>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> Shoot, I've given up on some threads for the most part. I just pop >>>>>> on >>>>>> once >>>>>> in a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for 486, when did those come out? I need to get me one of them. >>>>>> I'll >>>>>> bet they really rock compared to my 286! >>>>>> >>>>>> Have a great Christmas ol' friend! >>>>>> marlon >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:58 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Marlon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I know you guys out there in the woods are a little behind but a >>>>>>> whole >>>>>>> day >>>>>>> behind!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Com'on dude. Its the fifth. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you don't change it now you are gonna be late for Christmas and >>>>>>> boy >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> your family gonna be pissed!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LOL >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Change the clock on that 486 machine already >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -B- >>>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:56:35 >>>>>>> To: WISPA General List<[email protected]> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> LOL Yeah. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It's much easier to whine than it is to join and help improve things >>>>>>> eh? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mark, you still fail to grasp the difference between working to >>>>>>> change >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> rules while living within the ones that exist. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> marlon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:38 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wow...OK Who peed in the Muddy Water and hit the Frog????? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sheesh... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -B- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>>>> And I won't be. I was once and put money into WISPA. When I >>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>> WISPA >>>>>>>>> has the interests of all WISPS in mind when they act, then I'll >>>>>>>>> financially >>>>>>>>> support it. When WISPA goes to washington DC and represents to >>>>>>>>> them, >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> we actually WANT to be regulated, I cannot support them. When >>>>>>>>> WISPA >>>>>>>>> consistently fights FOR all of us, and not just the narrow >>>>>>>>> interests >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> those who want federal money or whatever, then I may again support >>>>>>>>> WISPA >>>>>>>>> financially. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> When the attitude that "consolidation and shaking out the smaller >>>>>>>>> players" >>>>>>>>> is a good thing goes away, then there's on more barrier down. It >>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> official, but people who make decisions in WISPA have said that in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> past. >>>>>>>>> Sorry, you lost me with that one. Small business and "mom and >>>>>>>>> pop" >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> backbone of our economy and make up a huge segment of all the jobs >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> whole country. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Every other industry organization unabashedly opposes everything >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> costs >>>>>>>>> them or can harm them, but the leadership continues to insist that >>>>>>>>> somehow >>>>>>>>> playing nice and agreeing to mandates and costs will buy us >>>>>>>>> favor... >>>>>>>>> All >>>>>>>>> that happens is the mandates and agreements happen, the regulators >>>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>>> and all the "goodwill" supposedly bought evaportes, with the >>>>>>>>> precedents >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> whatnot remain. Until they understand that Washington DC is NEVER >>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>> friend, never to be trusted, then we're just sheep waiting to get >>>>>>>>> shorn. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Until this fundamental approach changes, no way in good conscience >>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>> my name on what they do or give them money. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, that's just my opinion and it's not subject to "revision >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> extension". >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This same attitude is going on still. WISPA leadership is still >>>>>>>>> talking >>>>>>>>> about trying to out maneuver the big boys so as to make grants and >>>>>>>>> loans >>>>>>>>> available. Cripes. Yeah, like we're ever going to win the arm >>>>>>>>> twisting >>>>>>>>> contest to bend it in our direction? We don't collectively have >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>> money or lobbyists tin DC to get our names to the top of the >>>>>>>>> rolodexes. >>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>> cannot win that fight with those rules. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We have got to start selling the value of a thriving and diverse >>>>>>>>> industry >>>>>>>>> that exists solely due to lack of regulation and lack of >>>>>>>>> governmental >>>>>>>>> interference and that the big players cannot play our game >>>>>>>>> effectively >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> that betting on the big guys is like buying Enron or Lehman stock. >>>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> never be the providers to the masses, but there can never be >>>>>>>>> affordable >>>>>>>>> ubiquitous broadband without us. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That might take some thought and creativity to compose the >>>>>>>>> narration >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> might take some skill to sell, but there's simply no rebuttal from >>>>>>>>> Verizon >>>>>>>>> that FIOS is ever going to make a lick of sense in a wide array of >>>>>>>>> places. >>>>>>>>> Or that in an era when Congress really, REALLY needs to get their >>>>>>>>> fiscal >>>>>>>>> act >>>>>>>>> in order, that blowing vast sums to reach few people makes sense. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It has to be about selling the value of who and what you are and >>>>>>>>> why >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> are, not out muscling the big guys for a slice of pie. That >>>>>>>>> can't >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> won. >>>>>>>>> Further, it obliterations the differences between us and them. >>>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>>> DIFFERENCE is our strength, not our weakness. If you're not >>>>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>> those terms, then some re-thinking needs to happen. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What will attract membership is a consistent, clear message about >>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> have and are building a thriving and healthy industry, even in >>>>>>>>> these >>>>>>>>> economic times, due to the fact that WE ARE NOT THEM and then >>>>>>>>> selling >>>>>>>>> exactly who we are. The people coming back form DC need to >>>>>>>>> talking >>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>> how they sold us so well that when we say we need protection from >>>>>>>>> mandates >>>>>>>>> and expensive intrusions, that they listened. The idea of going >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> DC >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> being a "we threw a toothpick in the cogs of the big guys and got >>>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>> money >>>>>>>>> for us" is self defeating. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We need to be proactive, not reactive, we need a coherent message >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> coherent brand. We need to be defensive of the very thing that >>>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> possible for our numbers to multiply - freedom to do business >>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>> regulatory overhead. We need to not be attempting to joust with >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> cable >>>>>>>>> operators and telcos over what they want. We need to present >>>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> compelling than "feed our gaping maw so we c an continue our >>>>>>>>> mediocre >>>>>>>>> performance" that the othe guys play. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And no, don't tell me to "run for WISPA office". Agitators like >>>>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>>> don't win popularity contests. Besides, I won't put my name on >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> organization until it changes. I prefer poking a stick in the >>>>>>>>> hornets >>>>>>>>> nest, to letting stuff go along quietly. I've never found that >>>>>>>>> emulating >>>>>>>>> someone else is the sure-fire way to beat them. That is not >>>>>>>>> conducive >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> winning anything. Go for the whole banana, go for broke, or don't >>>>>>>>> bother. >>>>>>>>> Lead, follow, or get out of the way... I spent the first half >>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>> life >>>>>>>>> being compliant and found life has gotten too short. So, love me >>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>> hate >>>>>>>>> me, but for pity's sakes, grow a spine and act like real men with >>>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>>> ideas when you go to lobby DC. The world is so absent real >>>>>>>>> leadership >>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> even the mediocre would stand out if they make an effort these >>>>>>>>> days. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am firmly convinced you could make a serious impact if you think >>>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>>> the box of present conventions. The whole notion of "raising >>>>>>>>> broadband's >>>>>>>>> definition" to justify federal handouts to industry is so small, >>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>> weak, >>>>>>>>> such tired thinking that surely a better notion can be sold. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Of course, if that's the best the "membership" can come up with... >>>>>>>>> hell, >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>> probably deserve our fate.. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ok, soapbox gone... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am ever so late today... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>>> <insert witty tagline here> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:45 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Tom DeReggi wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I am open to feedback from you, on what your opinions are, so we >>>>>>>>>>> can decide on a WISPA policy for those questions. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Tom, don't get caught up in arguments with him. 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