Unless you have a heavy duty application, even the slowest boxes out there do the trick. Oh, except Celeron - they suck.
On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:28 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Grin > > I remember putting a 286 upgrade card into what must have been an ISA slot > on my old Tandy 1000. Man, that made the F19 game run SOOOOOOO much > smoother! > > I don't mess with pc's much anymore. What speeds are machines running at? > I was just looking at a new one for the front office. I can't find anything > running much faster than 2 or 2.5 ghz unless I want to spend a lot more > money than a machine running email and quickbooks should take. (I'll never > do another one of those laptop based small Dell POS machines!!! Came in > with a bad board on it, now they have to send out another tech to fix broken > stuff. junk) > > laters, > marlon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article > > >> So you upgraded the cpu and the os from Windows 286, eh? Those were the >> days! >> >> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 11:14 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>> Dude! 2 years ago, maybe three. Wow, I didn't know Windows 3.10 could >>> run >>> so well! Sure makes life a lot easier. >>> marlon >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "RickG" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:05 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>> >>> >>>> 286? When did you upgrade from your 8088? :) >>>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 8:53 PM, Marlon K. Schafer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> Shoot, I've given up on some threads for the most part. I just pop on >>>>> once >>>>> in a while. >>>>> >>>>> As for 486, when did those come out? I need to get me one of them. >>>>> I'll >>>>> bet they really rock compared to my 286! >>>>> >>>>> Have a great Christmas ol' friend! >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 5:58 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Marlon >>>>>> >>>>>> I know you guys out there in the woods are a little behind but a whole >>>>>> day >>>>>> behind!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> Com'on dude. Its the fifth. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you don't change it now you are gonna be late for Christmas and boy >>>>>> is >>>>>> your family gonna be pissed!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> LOL >>>>>> >>>>>> Change the clock on that 486 machine already >>>>>> >>>>>> -B- >>>>>> Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: "Marlon K. Schafer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> >>>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2008 18:56:35 >>>>>> To: WISPA General List<[email protected]> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> LOL Yeah. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's much easier to whine than it is to join and help improve things >>>>>> eh? >>>>>> >>>>>> Mark, you still fail to grasp the difference between working to change >>>>>> the >>>>>> rules while living within the ones that exist. >>>>>> >>>>>> marlon >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Bob Moldashel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 11:38 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow...OK Who peed in the Muddy Water and hit the Frog????? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sheesh... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -B- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>>>>>>> And I won't be. I was once and put money into WISPA. When I >>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>> WISPA >>>>>>>> has the interests of all WISPS in mind when they act, then I'll >>>>>>>> financially >>>>>>>> support it. When WISPA goes to washington DC and represents to >>>>>>>> them, >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> we actually WANT to be regulated, I cannot support them. When >>>>>>>> WISPA >>>>>>>> consistently fights FOR all of us, and not just the narrow interests >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> those who want federal money or whatever, then I may again support >>>>>>>> WISPA >>>>>>>> financially. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When the attitude that "consolidation and shaking out the smaller >>>>>>>> players" >>>>>>>> is a good thing goes away, then there's on more barrier down. It >>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> official, but people who make decisions in WISPA have said that in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> past. >>>>>>>> Sorry, you lost me with that one. Small business and "mom and pop" >>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> backbone of our economy and make up a huge segment of all the jobs >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> whole country. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Every other industry organization unabashedly opposes everything >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> costs >>>>>>>> them or can harm them, but the leadership continues to insist that >>>>>>>> somehow >>>>>>>> playing nice and agreeing to mandates and costs will buy us favor... >>>>>>>> All >>>>>>>> that happens is the mandates and agreements happen, the regulators >>>>>>>> change >>>>>>>> and all the "goodwill" supposedly bought evaportes, with the >>>>>>>> precedents >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> whatnot remain. Until they understand that Washington DC is NEVER >>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>> friend, never to be trusted, then we're just sheep waiting to get >>>>>>>> shorn. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Until this fundamental approach changes, no way in good conscience >>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>> my name on what they do or give them money. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sorry, that's just my opinion and it's not subject to "revision and >>>>>>>> extension". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This same attitude is going on still. WISPA leadership is still >>>>>>>> talking >>>>>>>> about trying to out maneuver the big boys so as to make grants and >>>>>>>> loans >>>>>>>> available. Cripes. Yeah, like we're ever going to win the arm >>>>>>>> twisting >>>>>>>> contest to bend it in our direction? We don't collectively have >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> money or lobbyists tin DC to get our names to the top of the >>>>>>>> rolodexes. >>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>> cannot win that fight with those rules. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have got to start selling the value of a thriving and diverse >>>>>>>> industry >>>>>>>> that exists solely due to lack of regulation and lack of >>>>>>>> governmental >>>>>>>> interference and that the big players cannot play our game >>>>>>>> effectively >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> that betting on the big guys is like buying Enron or Lehman stock. >>>>>>>> We >>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>> never be the providers to the masses, but there can never be >>>>>>>> affordable >>>>>>>> ubiquitous broadband without us. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> That might take some thought and creativity to compose the narration >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> might take some skill to sell, but there's simply no rebuttal from >>>>>>>> Verizon >>>>>>>> that FIOS is ever going to make a lick of sense in a wide array of >>>>>>>> places. >>>>>>>> Or that in an era when Congress really, REALLY needs to get their >>>>>>>> fiscal >>>>>>>> act >>>>>>>> in order, that blowing vast sums to reach few people makes sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It has to be about selling the value of who and what you are and why >>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>> are, not out muscling the big guys for a slice of pie. That can't >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>> won. >>>>>>>> Further, it obliterations the differences between us and them. >>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>> DIFFERENCE is our strength, not our weakness. If you're not >>>>>>>> thinking >>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>> those terms, then some re-thinking needs to happen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What will attract membership is a consistent, clear message about >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> have and are building a thriving and healthy industry, even in these >>>>>>>> economic times, due to the fact that WE ARE NOT THEM and then >>>>>>>> selling >>>>>>>> exactly who we are. The people coming back form DC need to talking >>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>> how they sold us so well that when we say we need protection from >>>>>>>> mandates >>>>>>>> and expensive intrusions, that they listened. The idea of going to >>>>>>>> DC >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> being a "we threw a toothpick in the cogs of the big guys and got >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> money >>>>>>>> for us" is self defeating. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We need to be proactive, not reactive, we need a coherent message >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> coherent brand. We need to be defensive of the very thing that >>>>>>>> makes >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> possible for our numbers to multiply - freedom to do business >>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>> regulatory overhead. We need to not be attempting to joust with >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> cable >>>>>>>> operators and telcos over what they want. We need to present >>>>>>>> something >>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>> compelling than "feed our gaping maw so we c an continue our >>>>>>>> mediocre >>>>>>>> performance" that the othe guys play. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And no, don't tell me to "run for WISPA office". Agitators like >>>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>> don't win popularity contests. Besides, I won't put my name on the >>>>>>>> organization until it changes. I prefer poking a stick in the >>>>>>>> hornets >>>>>>>> nest, to letting stuff go along quietly. I've never found that >>>>>>>> emulating >>>>>>>> someone else is the sure-fire way to beat them. That is not >>>>>>>> conducive >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> winning anything. Go for the whole banana, go for broke, or don't >>>>>>>> bother. >>>>>>>> Lead, follow, or get out of the way... I spent the first half of >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> life >>>>>>>> being compliant and found life has gotten too short. So, love me >>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>> hate >>>>>>>> me, but for pity's sakes, grow a spine and act like real men with >>>>>>>> original >>>>>>>> ideas when you go to lobby DC. The world is so absent real >>>>>>>> leadership >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> even the mediocre would stand out if they make an effort these days. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am firmly convinced you could make a serious impact if you think >>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>> the box of present conventions. The whole notion of "raising >>>>>>>> broadband's >>>>>>>> definition" to justify federal handouts to industry is so small, so >>>>>>>> weak, >>>>>>>> such tired thinking that surely a better notion can be sold. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Of course, if that's the best the "membership" can come up with... >>>>>>>> hell, >>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>> probably deserve our fate.. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ok, soapbox gone... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I am ever so late today... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>>>>>>> <insert witty tagline here> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Butch Evans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2008 6:45 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Article >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2008, Tom DeReggi wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I am open to feedback from you, on what your opinions are, so we >>>>>>>>>> can decide on a WISPA policy for those questions. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Tom, don't get caught up in arguments with him. 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