Been there done that. We were getting double billed for about 8 months because they didn't remove our billing on some old circuits after they forced us to upgrade from the old SBC network. We paid it for a few months because our account rep said it would be fixed and they would credit our account for what we over paid. Well they didn't get it fixed and we stopped paying it, our account rep assured us it was nothing to worry about and that it would be taken care of. Well 8 months later the ATT collections dept was calling me saying they were going to turn us over to an outside collection agency. A quick call to my account rep and then one to the IL commerce commission had the problem taken care of in about 2 weeks.
Sounds like you have had similar issues with them but you have no idea how much grief ATT/SBC has caused me over the last 6 yrs we have been in business. I wish I could get away from them but at this point in time no one seems to be able to help us out down here. -----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:49 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN Of course, they'll bill you 10 times that and never fix their billing issues! -RickG On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Chadd Thompson <chad...@msn.com> wrote: > Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial > DS3. > > 10mb: $4300 > 20mb: $4788 > 30mb: $5300 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I > won't > say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k. > > The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet > justification. > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Richey" <myli...@battleop.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:39 AM > To: "'WISPA General List'" <wireless@wispa.org> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > /rant on > > > > Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a > market > > where it's not cost effective to multi home. Where many people might get > > a > > DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month. For > > those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their > > connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home in > > the > > beginning. > > > > If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will give > > you an allocation. I have had problems in the past with a similar > > situation > > where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to allocate > > any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN. ARIN would not do anything > > until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem. > > > > The policy should be different for an ISP. If you are a small ISP > > multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22. It makes it hard for > > the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP blocks > > are non portable. > > > > /rant off > > > > Richey > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Cliff Olle > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 > days > > or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you are > > only using 4 class Cs? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Scott Piehn > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > One add to the /22. 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