Yes, big headaches from AT&T most of my career. If I find anotehr way to make money, I think I'll sell broadband cheaper than they will do until they have no more customers around here! -RickG
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 1:38 AM, Chadd Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > Been there done that. > > We were getting double billed for about 8 months because they didn't remove > our billing on some old circuits after they forced us to upgrade from the > old SBC network. We paid it for a few months because our account rep said > it > would be fixed and they would credit our account for what we over paid. > Well > they didn't get it fixed and we stopped paying it, our account rep assured > us it was nothing to worry about and that it would be taken care of. Well 8 > months later the ATT collections dept was calling me saying they were going > to turn us over to an outside collection agency. A quick call to my account > rep and then one to the IL commerce commission had the problem taken care > of > in about 2 weeks. > > Sounds like you have had similar issues with them but you have no idea how > much grief ATT/SBC has caused me over the last 6 yrs we have been in > business. I wish I could get away from them but at this point in time no > one > seems to be able to help us out down here. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on > Behalf Of RickG > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:49 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > Of course, they'll bill you 10 times that and never fix their billing > issues! -RickG > > On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:22 PM, Chadd Thompson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Here are some quotes that I received a while back from ATT for a partial > > DS3. > > > > 10mb: $4300 > > 20mb: $4788 > > 30mb: $5300 > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]on > > Behalf Of Mike Hammett > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 1:33 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > It would be possible to get a wireless link off the Sears Tower (no, I > > won't > > say the new name), but a DS3 delivered here is well over $5k. > > > > The provider must always provide you with IPs, assuming you meet > > justification. > > > > > > ----- > > Mike Hammett > > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > http://www.ics-il.com > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Richey" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 10:39 AM > > To: "'WISPA General List'" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > > /rant on > > > > > > Dealing with Arin is frustrating if you are a smaller provider in a > > market > > > where it's not cost effective to multi home. Where many people might > get > > > a > > > DS3 for as little as $1500/mo or less, some may pay $3,000+/month. > For > > > those who are in more rural areas stuck paying high prices for their > > > connection to the backbone it's just not cost effective to multi home > in > > > the > > > beginning. > > > > > > If you are single homed you must use /20 (4096 IPs) before they will > give > > > you an allocation. I have had problems in the past with a similar > > > situation > > > where a network was using 12 class c and the upstream refused to > allocate > > > any more IPs saying we needed to go to ARIN. ARIN would not do > anything > > > until we were using a /20 so it became a chicken or the egg problem. > > > > > > The policy should be different for an ISP. If you are a small ISP > > > multi-homed or not you should be able to get a /22. It makes it hard > for > > > the smaller provider to change backbone providers because their IP > blocks > > > are non portable. > > > > > > /rant off > > > > > > Richey > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > > Behalf Of Cliff Olle > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 9:02 AM > > > To: 'WISPA General List' > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > > > I was told that I would have to have BGP and be multi-homed within 30 > > days > > > or they could revoke my IP's. Would they allot a /20 in the case you > are > > > only using 4 class Cs? > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > > Behalf Of Scott Piehn > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 7:29 AM > > > To: WISPA General List > > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] speaking of ARIN > > > > > > One add to the /22. 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