I would use a RB411 as the "canary" board. cheap, reliable, scriptable, AND has input voltage monitoring....
Tom DeReggi wrote: > <snip> > > Any good ideas on how to tell when the power goes out? For example, if a > breaker pops, 24 hours later the battery runs dead and still creates an > outage, if you don;t know power was cut. > One suggestion made was setup a second cheapo linksys router for $40, and > plug that in NOT on the batterty, and then remote monitor that device to > tell when power is down. > Although, with that unit, it might be hard to fit into the case, and may > draw unnecessary current. Any ideas on how to handle that? Do any of teh > Mikroik SBCs have i/o slots that can measure results of a relay or > something, to help with that? > > Tom DeReggi > RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc > IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:46 PM > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or > isitgettingbetter? > > > >> Someone sells those on this list... >> http://www.wlanparts.com/product/TP-UPS-DC-12-9/UPS_Pro__Outdoor_UPS_with_Die_Cast_Enclosure_12V_9AH.html >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however >> improbable, must be the truth." >> --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle >> >> >> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 7:40 PM, Tom DeReggi >> <wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net>wrote: >> >> >>> Ryan, >>> >>> I agree completely, and sympathise for the situation. >>> >>> But does your customer know that? >>> >>> >>> Tom DeReggi >>> RapidDSL & Wireless, Inc >>> IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ryan Ghering" <rgher...@gmail.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 11:51 AM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or is >>> itgettingbetter? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Ohh agreed, redundant upstream is a must. However when a DS3 costs over >>>> >>> 10 >>> >>>> grand a month to get out of this area to a NON-Qwest system ( not >>>> including >>>> bandwidth ), for true redundancy it makes it not feasible. We are >>>> trying >>>> to >>>> engineer a wireless backhaul out, but its taking some time to do so. >>>> Its >>>> funny folks in the extreme rural areas, seem to think that we WISP's >>>> and >>>> ISP's should have the same access to bandwidth and pricing as Metro >>>> guys >>>> do. >>>> Yet, my cost per meg plus transport is about 280.00 per meg total, >>>> >>> however >>> >>>> even in a city like Greeley, Colorado, you can get bandwidth plus >>>> transport >>>> for around 50.00 a meg or less. >>>> >>>> Its the burden of being a rural isp. >>>> >>>> Ohh and the customer still wants 20 meg down 5 meg up for 20 bucks a >>>> month, >>>> and it damn well better work 24/7 or its the end of the world lol.... >>>> >>>> Ryan >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Technically, yes, this was your fault. The customer is paying YOU for >>>>> service... not qwest. If you can't provide the service (regardless of >>>>> >>> the >>> >>>>> reason), then it's your fault. >>>>> >>>>> In our regional area, the ABC affiliate stopped selling to DISH >>>>> Network >>>>> last year over the contract price. So if you had DISH (which I did), >>>>> you >>>>> could no longer get ABC at all. This went on for over 6 months. Do you >>>>> think >>>>> everyone was mad at ABC or DISH? DISH is the one that had to start >>>>> >>> giving >>> >>>>> credits and take all the phone calls. >>>>> >>>>> You HAVE to have at least two separate upstreams or you are just >>>>> asking >>>>> for >>>>> these kind of problems. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> Microserv >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ryan Ghering wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yesterday, we had a long term upstream outage. Someone in Qwest killed >>>>> our >>>>> ATM upstream and somehow we were getting crosstalk to another ATM PVC. >>>>> (Don't ask nobody can tell me how this was done). >>>>> >>>>> In the mean time customers are calling us screaming that they need >>>>> their >>>>> net. Our staff politely informs them all day long that this isn't a >>>>> >>> issue >>> >>>>> with us, its upstream. Some customers accept that and move on for the >>>>> day. >>>>> >>>>> However the kicker!! One of our customers which is a dedicated 3 meg >>>>> calls >>>>> up and asks, "Are you down" I say yes at this time the internet is >>>>> down >>>>> due >>>>> to a problem with qwest in Denver. The customer says "ok, do you have >>>>> an >>>>> ETA?" I tell him no not at this time the problem is with qwest not >>>>> with >>>>> us. >>>>> Customer says "ok thanks" and hangs up. >>>>> >>>>> Not 20 minutes later I get a phone call from the customer, he's mad as >>>>> hell >>>>> and spitting nails. I only caught about 1/2 of what he had said. But >>>>> it >>>>> sounded like. "Your a damn lier, I call qwest, they have NO issues >>>>> anywhere. >>>>> I want my ****** Net or you can kiss my account goodbye a**hole.." >>>>> >>>>> Then he hangs up. ( mind you this is a business customer ) >>>>> >>>>> I call him back about an hour later and he says he's canceled. And >>>>> will >>>>> get >>>>> service from somewhere else. >>>>> >>>>> How can this be? How was this my fault? >>>>> >>>>> Customers are irrational and stupid.. Agreed. lol.... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ryan >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 1:58 AM, Marlon K. Schafer < >>>>> >>> o...@odessaoffice.com> >>> >>>>> <o...@odessaoffice.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> roflol >>>>> >>>>> Rick this is a GOOD thing.... Your customers call you for all >>>>> problems >>>>> because YOU WILL ANSWER THE PHONE!!!!!! >>>>> >>>>> Sometimes great service levels suck. lol >>>>> marlon >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Rick Kunze" <rku...@colusanet.com> <rku...@colusanet.com> >>>>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 5:40 PM >>>>> Subject: [WISPA] Are customers increasingly clueless? Or is it >>>>> gettingbetter? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Customer calls just now. They ask if the Internet is "having >>>>> trouble", >>>>> I reply that there are no outages. She then says she called a couple >>>>> of >>>>> her friends in neighboring towns and they were all down too. She asks >>>>> if any other people have called today with problems. I replied >>>>> stating >>>>> that a day doesn't go by without someone calling with such an issue >>>>> etc. >>>>> >>>>> I ask her for some details, "any message on the screen?" 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