Ditto! -RickG

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> inline
>
> Mark Nash wrote:
>> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business.
>>
>> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even the least
>> expensive MPoP?
>
> 1
> I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not have a laptop. 
> They
> need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I manage it, they have
> ZERO access to it)
>
> The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out some user/pass) 
> is
> to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware.
>
>>
>> 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs devalues my
>> business to a prospective buyer.
>
> Why?
>
>>
>> 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a problem for tech
>> support (we have 700 customers and 3 techs...not everyone knows what each
>> installation looks like or how it's connected necessarily).
>
> Documentation!
> I have found that pictures of >every< install is a must. I have a place where 
> I
> store everything (other then just my brain!) even tho I am still in the one 
> man
> shop stages with this one. I keep every firmware, every application, reams of
> note pads, etc. I distill it down every so often. The one thing I am missing
> most )and am working on fixing that) is a GOOD network resource map setup.
>
>>
>> I think this is good discussion...
>>
>> Just because you CAN do it, SHOULD you do it.
>>
>> Depends on a few factors...
>>
>> 1. Do I need/want to make money any which way I can?
>
> Yes! =)
>
> OK OK, no bank robberies.
>
>>
>> 2. How much do I put into a MPoP (battery backup vs. power outage & no
>> access to AP if its host is on vacation)
>
> Thats easy. How often is power out? I have full site access (roof) and
> everything is there. I will be adding out door mounted UPS's as it makes sense
> to. For the most part, when power is out here, everyone is with out. In years
> the only power outage that did not take >everyone< out let us know there was a
> issue with one of the primary UPS's. APC and it had no idea the battery was 
> bad
> till after the power failed.
>
>>
>> 3. Do I plan to sell my business and if I do should I stick to traditional
>> "inside-the-box" installations?
>
> Right now, I do not plan to sell (no way would I get out what I have put in 
> time
> wise). Would I ever sell? Sure its on the table but right now I can not demand
> the price I would need to move on to bigger/better projects. I expect that to
> change some day.
>
> "inside the box" oh man. I had a convo with a SBC rep once. DS3 port $2000,
> 700ft to cross the street $28K. Wireless? to quote "That (roof access) is to 
> far
> out side the box". This is 10 years ago.
>
>
> On a side, I play the lotto and fiddle with numbers and burn $5/mo or so in
> tickets. Its a hobby and it pays off often enough to fund itself. If I were to
> ever 'win big' I would do this for free, I simply love doing it. Yes, I am
> certifiable.
>
>
>>
>> Mark Nash
>> UnwiredWest
>> 78 Centennial Loop
>> Suite E
>> Eugene, OR 97401
>> 541-998-5555
>> 541-998-5599 fax
>> http://www.unwiredwest.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "RickG" <[email protected]>
>> To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops
>>
>>
>>> I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and bullets
>>> for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible).
>>> -RickG
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to redistribute
>>>> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a full
>>>> blown AP/BH setup. Any one else doing this? I normally use 5.8 for BH
>>>> typically and 2.4 for clients, I was thinking of maybe using a PS2 to
>>>> receive/BH and connect it to an NS2 with small omni to redistribute.
>>>> Both would be in a bridge and allow the clients connected to connect to
>>>> the main AP for PPPoE authentication. Is this a reasonable or ridiculous
>>>> solution? Any other solutions others are using that might be better? I
>>>> know I could use MT but that would add complexity to the mix I don't
>>>> need.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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