We do it old school in that case, tether the cell to the laptop. :) No fancy iPhone on this end!
-----Original Message----- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Cheney Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 2:59 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because their connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that much... Robert West wrote: > I agree. I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every install online > so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at. Not so for me at the moment. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops > > Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if it's > another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the resident is gone. > Get paperwork that allows you to do so. > > Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it penetrates the > wall and the POE. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > improbable, must be the truth." > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net < > jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: > >> inline >> >> Mark Nash wrote: >>> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business. >>> >>> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even the least >>> expensive MPoP? >> 1 >> I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not have a > laptop. >> They >> need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I manage it, they >> have >> ZERO access to it) >> >> The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out some >> user/pass) is >> to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware. >> >>> 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs devalues >> my >>> business to a prospective buyer. >> Why? >> >>> 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a problem for > tech >>> support (we have 700 customers and 3 techs...not everyone knows what > each >>> installation looks like or how it's connected necessarily). >> Documentation! >> I have found that pictures of >every< install is a must. I have a place >> where I >> store everything (other then just my brain!) even tho I am still in the > one >> man >> shop stages with this one. I keep every firmware, every application, reams >> of >> note pads, etc. I distill it down every so often. The one thing I am >> missing >> most )and am working on fixing that) is a GOOD network resource map setup. >> >>> I think this is good discussion... >>> >>> Just because you CAN do it, SHOULD you do it. >>> >>> Depends on a few factors... >>> >>> 1. Do I need/want to make money any which way I can? >> Yes! =) >> >> OK OK, no bank robberies. >> >>> 2. How much do I put into a MPoP (battery backup vs. power outage & no >>> access to AP if its host is on vacation) >> Thats easy. How often is power out? I have full site access (roof) and >> everything is there. I will be adding out door mounted UPS's as it makes >> sense >> to. For the most part, when power is out here, everyone is with out. In >> years >> the only power outage that did not take >everyone< out let us know there >> was a >> issue with one of the primary UPS's. APC and it had no idea the battery > was >> bad >> till after the power failed. >> >>> 3. Do I plan to sell my business and if I do should I stick to >> traditional >>> "inside-the-box" installations? >> Right now, I do not plan to sell (no way would I get out what I have put > in >> time >> wise). Would I ever sell? Sure its on the table but right now I can not >> demand >> the price I would need to move on to bigger/better projects. I expect that >> to >> change some day. >> >> "inside the box" oh man. I had a convo with a SBC rep once. DS3 port > $2000, >> 700ft to cross the street $28K. Wireless? to quote "That (roof access) is >> to far >> out side the box". This is 10 years ago. >> >> >> On a side, I play the lotto and fiddle with numbers and burn $5/mo or so > in >> tickets. Its a hobby and it pays off often enough to fund itself. If I > were >> to >> ever 'win big' I would do this for free, I simply love doing it. Yes, I am >> certifiable. >> >> >>> Mark Nash >>> UnwiredWest >>> 78 Centennial Loop >>> Suite E >>> Eugene, OR 97401 >>> 541-998-5555 >>> 541-998-5599 fax >>> http://www.unwiredwest.com >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> >>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:39 PM >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops >>> >>> >>>> I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and bullets >>>> for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible). >>>> -RickG >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy <mmce...@accubak.com> >> wrote: >>>>> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to redistribute >>>>> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a full >>>>> blown AP/BH setup. Any one else doing this? I normally use 5.8 for BH >>>>> typically and 2.4 for clients, I was thinking of maybe using a PS2 to >>>>> receive/BH and connect it to an NS2 with small omni to redistribute. >>>>> Both would be in a bridge and allow the clients connected to connect > to >>>>> the main AP for PPPoE authentication. Is this a reasonable or >> ridiculous >>>>> solution? Any other solutions others are using that might be better? I >>>>> know I could use MT but that would add complexity to the mix I don't >>>>> need. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mark >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >>>>> WISPA Wants You! 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