Call the office. Think it out. What else are you going to do? Turn into a brain dead company like Big Cable Co and scramble when things don't work?
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth." --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Josh Cheney <josh.che...@gmail.com> wrote: > Of course, if the reason you are at a particular site is because their > connection is down, having the docs online doesn't help all that much... > > Robert West wrote: > > I agree. I'd like to eventually have all the docs of every install > online > > so they can be pulled up from wherever I'm at. Not so for me at the > moment. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On > > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > > Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 11:41 PM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops > > > > Most people will also say to have the enclosure outdoors (even if it's > > another $200 to do so) so you have access to it when the resident is > gone. > > Get paperwork that allows you to do so. > > > > Installs should have a picture of the SU/SM/CPE, where it penetrates the > > wall and the POE. > > > > Josh Luthman > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > 1100 Wayne St > > Suite 1337 > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > "When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however > > improbable, must be the truth." > > --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle > > > > > > On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 11:32 PM, jree...@18-30chat.net < > > jree...@18-30chat.net> wrote: > > > >> inline > >> > >> Mark Nash wrote: > >>> I'd like to hear opinions on what Micropops do to your business. > >>> > >>> 1. How many customers do you look for before you install even the least > >>> expensive MPoP? > >> 1 > >> I can not think of a single person (on my net) that does not have a > > laptop. > >> They > >> need a AP so you mighht as well leverage it (Its mine, I manage it, they > >> have > >> ZERO access to it) > >> > >> The worst someone can do to my network (with out figuring out some > >> user/pass) is > >> to unplug some part of it or otherwise damage hardware. > >> > >>> 2. I've always been of the opinion that having many small MPoPs > devalues > >> my > >>> business to a prospective buyer. > >> Why? > >> > >>> 3. I've always thought that having many small MPoPs is a problem for > > tech > >>> support (we have 700 customers and 3 techs...not everyone knows what > > each > >>> installation looks like or how it's connected necessarily). > >> Documentation! > >> I have found that pictures of >every< install is a must. I have a place > >> where I > >> store everything (other then just my brain!) even tho I am still in the > > one > >> man > >> shop stages with this one. I keep every firmware, every application, > reams > >> of > >> note pads, etc. I distill it down every so often. The one thing I am > >> missing > >> most )and am working on fixing that) is a GOOD network resource map > setup. > >> > >>> I think this is good discussion... > >>> > >>> Just because you CAN do it, SHOULD you do it. > >>> > >>> Depends on a few factors... > >>> > >>> 1. Do I need/want to make money any which way I can? > >> Yes! =) > >> > >> OK OK, no bank robberies. > >> > >>> 2. How much do I put into a MPoP (battery backup vs. power outage & no > >>> access to AP if its host is on vacation) > >> Thats easy. How often is power out? I have full site access (roof) and > >> everything is there. I will be adding out door mounted UPS's as it makes > >> sense > >> to. For the most part, when power is out here, everyone is with out. In > >> years > >> the only power outage that did not take >everyone< out let us know there > >> was a > >> issue with one of the primary UPS's. APC and it had no idea the battery > > was > >> bad > >> till after the power failed. > >> > >>> 3. Do I plan to sell my business and if I do should I stick to > >> traditional > >>> "inside-the-box" installations? > >> Right now, I do not plan to sell (no way would I get out what I have put > > in > >> time > >> wise). Would I ever sell? Sure its on the table but right now I can not > >> demand > >> the price I would need to move on to bigger/better projects. I expect > that > >> to > >> change some day. > >> > >> "inside the box" oh man. I had a convo with a SBC rep once. DS3 port > > $2000, > >> 700ft to cross the street $28K. Wireless? to quote "That (roof access) > is > >> to far > >> out side the box". This is 10 years ago. > >> > >> > >> On a side, I play the lotto and fiddle with numbers and burn $5/mo or so > > in > >> tickets. Its a hobby and it pays off often enough to fund itself. If I > > were > >> to > >> ever 'win big' I would do this for free, I simply love doing it. Yes, I > am > >> certifiable. > >> > >> > >>> Mark Nash > >>> UnwiredWest > >>> 78 Centennial Loop > >>> Suite E > >>> Eugene, OR 97401 > >>> 541-998-5555 > >>> 541-998-5599 fax > >>> http://www.unwiredwest.com > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "RickG" <rgunder...@gmail.com> > >>> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> > >>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2009 2:39 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Micropops > >>> > >>> > >>>> I'm doing just that using Ubiquiti Pico2HP units as the AP and bullets > >>>> for the backhaul (5GHz whenever possible). > >>>> -RickG > >>>> > >>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 3:21 PM, Mark McElvy <mmce...@accubak.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>> I suppose that is a good term, I would like to be able to > redistribute > >>>>> service to small pockets of houses, 6-12, without putting up a full > >>>>> blown AP/BH setup. Any one else doing this? I normally use 5.8 for BH > >>>>> typically and 2.4 for clients, I was thinking of maybe using a PS2 to > >>>>> receive/BH and connect it to an NS2 with small omni to redistribute. > >>>>> Both would be in a bridge and allow the clients connected to connect > > to > >>>>> the main AP for PPPoE authentication. Is this a reasonable or > >> ridiculous > >>>>> solution? Any other solutions others are using that might be better? > I > >>>>> know I could use MT but that would add complexity to the mix I don't > >>>>> need. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Mark > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >>>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>>>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >>>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>>> > >>>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>>> > >>>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>>> > >>>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >>>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >>>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>>> > >>>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>>> > >>>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >>> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >>> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >>> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >>> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >>> > >>> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >>> > >>> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >> WISPA Wants You! Join today! > >> http://signup.wispa.org/ > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > >> WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >> > >> Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >> > >> Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >> > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ---- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > > > -- > Josh Cheney > josh.che...@gmail.com > http://www.joshcheney.com > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > WISPA Wants You! Join today! > http://signup.wispa.org/ > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
