Are you asking if it is our job to follow the tax law?

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On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Adam Goodman <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sounds like a lot of work. I think the question should be - Is it
> really your (our) job to protect those crappies revenue stream?
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Jerry Richardson
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > So if you are running a NAT/DHCP network, how would you find the
> offending customer? We are running static/public so we don't run into this.
> >
> > I think the simplest way is to require the studio to provide the IP for
> the server delivering copyrighted information.
> >
> > The ISP has to be tracking CPE MACs.
> >
> > Use MT's torch or Wireshark to look at connections across the network to
> find the BT server IP. Match the connection to the MAC and there you go.
> >
> > Maybe there is an easier way.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> Behalf Of Nick Olsen
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:11 AM
> > To: WISPA General List
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
> >
> > Really to cover yourself you would need to know what customer it came
> from,
> > When NAT'ing that's hard to do. So yeah, I would agree you the ISP could
> > become the sole person responsible for that unless you can point fingers
> at
> > a customer.
> >
> > Nick Olsen
> > Brevard Wireless
> > (321) 205-1100 x106
> >
> >
> > ----------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:03 AM
> > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]>
> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
> >
> > What are you guys doing who have some/all of your network nat'ed? Seems
> > like then more of the burden might fall on you.
> >
> > GReg
> >
> > On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Adam Goodman wrote:
> >
> >> To me the question is how much work should I invest in order to
> >> protect "their" copyright interest. It makes sense to me that since
> >> they have no way of knowing the identity of the customer and all they
> >> really have is an ip address. That the ISP would have to connect the
> >> copyright owner to the customer. Billing them for the research work
> >> sounds like good idea to me. That way I am not preventing them from
> >> contacting the perpetrating party, and I also get paid for my time.
> >>
> >> -Adam
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Robert West <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>> I agree.  I'm not the sheriff, I'm just the messenger boy.  I pass it
> > along
> >>> and forget it.  Not my job.
> >>>
> >>> Bob-
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:41 PM
> >>> To: WISPA General List
> >>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
> >>>
> >>> Notify customer, give a warning, make not on account, disregard studio
> >>> letter.  Wait for subpoena before giving the studios any information.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Chuck Hogg
> >>> Shelby Broadband
> >>> 502-722-9292
> >>> [email protected]
> >>> http://www.shelbybb.com
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> On
> >>> Behalf Of Adam Goodman
> >>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:12 PM
> >>> To: WISPA General List
> >>> Subject: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
> >>>
> >>> We have received an email from our provider with a complaint from
> >>> "Twentieth Century FOX Film Corporation" about a download movie from
> >>> BitTorrent.
> >>>
> >>> They demand we notify the customer and make sure the customer is aware
> >>> of our AUP. Has anyone received a notice like this and how did you
> >>> handle the case. Are you following DMCA protocol, or taking another
> >>> path?
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Adam
> >>>
> >>>
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