Sounds like a lot of work. I think the question should be - Is it
really your (our) job to protect those crappies revenue stream?


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Jerry Richardson
<jrichard...@aircloud.com> wrote:
> So if you are running a NAT/DHCP network, how would you find the offending 
> customer? We are running static/public so we don't run into this.
>
> I think the simplest way is to require the studio to provide the IP for the 
> server delivering copyrighted information.
>
> The ISP has to be tracking CPE MACs.
>
> Use MT's torch or Wireshark to look at connections across the network to find 
> the BT server IP. Match the connection to the MAC and there you go.
>
> Maybe there is an easier way.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Nick Olsen
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:11 AM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
>
> Really to cover yourself you would need to know what customer it came from,
> When NAT'ing that's hard to do. So yeah, I would agree you the ISP could
> become the sole person responsible for that unless you can point fingers at
> a customer.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Brevard Wireless
> (321) 205-1100 x106
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
>
> From: "os10ru...@gmail.com" <os10ru...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:03 AM
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
>
> What are you guys doing who have some/all of your network nat'ed? Seems
> like then more of the burden might fall on you.
>
> GReg
>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Adam Goodman wrote:
>
>> To me the question is how much work should I invest in order to
>> protect "their" copyright interest. It makes sense to me that since
>> they have no way of knowing the identity of the customer and all they
>> really have is an ip address. That the ISP would have to connect the
>> copyright owner to the customer. Billing them for the research work
>> sounds like good idea to me. That way I am not preventing them from
>> contacting the perpetrating party, and I also get paid for my time.
>>
>> -Adam
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Robert West <robert.w...@just-micro.com>
> wrote:
>>> I agree.  I'm not the sheriff, I'm just the messenger boy.  I pass it
> along
>>> and forget it.  Not my job.
>>>
>>> Bob-
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg
>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:41 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
>>>
>>> Notify customer, give a warning, make not on account, disregard studio
>>> letter.  Wait for subpoena before giving the studios any information.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck Hogg
>>> Shelby Broadband
>>> 502-722-9292
>>> ch...@shelbybb.com
>>> http://www.shelbybb.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Adam Goodman
>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:12 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement
>>>
>>> We have received an email from our provider with a complaint from
>>> "Twentieth Century FOX Film Corporation" about a download movie from
>>> BitTorrent.
>>>
>>> They demand we notify the customer and make sure the customer is aware
>>> of our AUP. Has anyone received a notice like this and how did you
>>> handle the case. Are you following DMCA protocol, or taking another
>>> path?
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Adam
>>>
>>>
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