> So what does the law require? It doesn't.
> Is this a case for why providing Internet services without a static public IP exposed the ISP to legal suit? If the law changes and says each customer is required to have a public IP, then ISPs need to be provided as such. Keep in mind, too, that IPs are dynamic with most ISPs. Don't forget that the "I have an open WiFi don't blame me" case still works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." --- Albert Einstein On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Jerry Richardson <[email protected] > wrote: > good point. > > So what does the law require? > > Is this a case for why providing Internet services without a static public > IP exposed the ISP to legal suit? > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of Josh Luthman > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 9:31 AM > To: WISPA General List > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement > > That works for current infringements but what about those last night? last > week? last month? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > "The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources." > --- Albert Einstein > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:28 PM, Jerry Richardson < > [email protected] > > wrote: > > > So if you are running a NAT/DHCP network, how would you find the > offending > > customer? We are running static/public so we don't run into this. > > > > I think the simplest way is to require the studio to provide the IP for > the > > server delivering copyrighted information. > > > > The ISP has to be tracking CPE MACs. > > > > Use MT's torch or Wireshark to look at connections across the network to > > find the BT server IP. Match the connection to the MAC and there you go. > > > > Maybe there is an easier way. > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > > Behalf Of Nick Olsen > > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 8:11 AM > > To: WISPA General List > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement > > > > Really to cover yourself you would need to know what customer it came > from, > > When NAT'ing that's hard to do. So yeah, I would agree you the ISP could > > become the sole person responsible for that unless you can point fingers > at > > a customer. > > > > Nick Olsen > > Brevard Wireless > > (321) 205-1100 x106 > > > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 11:03 AM > > To: "WISPA General List" <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement > > > > What are you guys doing who have some/all of your network nat'ed? Seems > > like then more of the burden might fall on you. > > > > GReg > > > > On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:20 AM, Adam Goodman wrote: > > > > > To me the question is how much work should I invest in order to > > > protect "their" copyright interest. It makes sense to me that since > > > they have no way of knowing the identity of the customer and all they > > > really have is an ip address. That the ISP would have to connect the > > > copyright owner to the customer. Billing them for the research work > > > sounds like good idea to me. That way I am not preventing them from > > > contacting the perpetrating party, and I also get paid for my time. > > > > > > -Adam > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Robert West < > [email protected] > > > > > wrote: > > >> I agree. I'm not the sheriff, I'm just the messenger boy. I pass it > > along > > >> and forget it. Not my job. > > >> > > >> Bob- > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > >> Behalf Of Chuck Hogg > > >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:41 PM > > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement > > >> > > >> Notify customer, give a warning, make not on account, disregard studio > > >> letter. Wait for subpoena before giving the studios any information. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Chuck Hogg > > >> Shelby Broadband > > >> 502-722-9292 > > >> [email protected] > > >> http://www.shelbybb.com > > >> > > >> > > >> -----Original Message----- > > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > On > > >> Behalf Of Adam Goodman > > >> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 12:12 PM > > >> To: WISPA General List > > >> Subject: [WISPA] DMCA - copyright infringement > > >> > > >> We have received an email from our provider with a complaint from > > >> "Twentieth Century FOX Film Corporation" about a download movie from > > >> BitTorrent. > > >> > > >> They demand we notify the customer and make sure the customer is aware > > >> of our AUP. Has anyone received a notice like this and how did you > > >> handle the case. 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