Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I disagree
with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes,
especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are
perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may hurt
or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of
safety, within reason. Just my opinion.

On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> Trust your kids and they will trust you back.
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> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <pa...@hrec.coop>wrote:
>
>> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some discussion at a
>> workshop I was at recently.
>>
>> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that was
>> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept all those
>> sorts of things.
>>
>> -Paul
>>
>> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Here's the scenario.  My kids are expressly forbidden from having email
>> > addresses outside my domain.  They are forbidden from having myspace,
>> > facebook etc. sites.
>> >
>> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on.
>> >
>> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can
>> > delete things from.
>> >
>> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that
>> might
>> > bite them in the butt later.  The days of people eventually forgetting
>> the
>> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone.
>> >
>> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account.  He used a hotmail email
>> > address to get it.  He had permission to use neither of them.  I finally
>> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd
>> been
>> > saying.  His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I
>> got
>> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it.  (I didn't
>> know
>> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the net
>> and
>> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc.  deep sigh)
>> >
>> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the
>> deleted
>> > information.  I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he
>> had
>> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being
>> hidden
>> > from me.  I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email
>> address.
>> >
>> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue.
>>  However
>> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!!  They had NO
>> > proof of age etc. on the account.  Nothing to verify that the child was
>> over
>> > 18 etc.  And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account
>> > information!  "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told.
>> >
>> > WTF is this???????  Absolutly amazing.
>> >
>> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids
>> these
>> > days?
>> >
>> > thanks
>> > marlon
>> >
>> >
>> >
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