It is dated but that's is what I believe. Society most definitely disagrees with that.
Hopefully you don't come to regret those words some day :) On 4/19/10, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > Wow, you're 22 and think like that?!?! I thought that mindset was dated! > Just come help with the "family business" and I'll make sure you eat, > have a place to sleep, & get a percentage of the profits :) > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Josh Luthman > <[email protected]> wrote: >> What would my allowance be with no chores? >> >> Another big thing...I never got an allowance. I worked for my money >> (odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is. >> >> IMO it's crap. Giving a child money to do what is expected (help >> cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense. Both my >> parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and >> a bed. >> >> On 4/19/10, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Can I adopt you? :) >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of >>>> view. >>>> >>>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic things). >>>> >>>> I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more >>>> then >>>> enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I >>>> was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My first >>>> job >>>> led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the people >>>> around me and the things I have. >>>> >>>> My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of them >>>> gets >>>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend I had in >>>> high >>>> school was in the same position. I know where that person's life stands >>>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our >>>> lives >>>> would be at 23 or 24. >>>> >>>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing you >>>> with >>>> my experiences, my results and my facts. >>>> >>>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>> continue >>>> that counts.” >>>> --- Winston Churchill >>>> >>>> >>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I disagree >>>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes, >>>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are >>>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may hurt >>>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of >>>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back. >>>>> > >>>>> > Josh Luthman >>>>> > Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> > 1100 Wayne St >>>>> > Suite 1337 >>>>> > Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> > >>>>> > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >>>>> continue >>>>> > that counts.” >>>>> > --- Winston Churchill >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <[email protected] >>>>> >wrote: >>>>> > >>>>> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some >>>>> >> discussion >>>>> >> at >>>>> a >>>>> >> workshop I was at recently. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that was >>>>> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept all >>>>> those >>>>> >> sorts of things. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -Paul >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> > Hi All, >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having >>>>> email >>>>> >> > addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having >>>>> >> > myspace, >>>>> >> > facebook etc. sites. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check >>>>> >> > on. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that >>>>> >> > *I* >>>>> can >>>>> >> > delete things from. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet >>>>> >> > that >>>>> >> might >>>>> >> > bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually >>>>> >> > forgetting >>>>> >> the >>>>> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail >>>>> >> > email >>>>> >> > address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I >>>>> finally >>>>> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what >>>>> >> > he'd >>>>> >> been >>>>> >> > saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between >>>>> >> > when >>>>> I >>>>> >> got >>>>> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I >>>>> >> > didn't >>>>> >> know >>>>> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on >>>>> >> > the >>>>> net >>>>> >> and >>>>> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of >>>>> >> > the >>>>> >> deleted >>>>> >> > information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and >>>>> >> > that >>>>> >> > he >>>>> >> had >>>>> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was >>>>> >> > being >>>>> >> hidden >>>>> >> > from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email >>>>> >> address. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. >>>>> >> However >>>>> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! They >>>>> >> > had >>>>> NO >>>>> >> > proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the >>>>> >> > child >>>>> was >>>>> >> over >>>>> >> > 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the >>>>> >> > account >>>>> >> > information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was >>>>> >> > told. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your >>>>> >> > kids >>>>> >> these >>>>> >> > days? >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > thanks >>>>> >> > marlon >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> > WISPA Wants You! Join today! >>>>> >> > http://signup.wispa.org/ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > WISPA Wireless List: [email protected] >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >>>>> >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >> WISPA Wants You! 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