Can I adopt you? :) On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]> wrote: > Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids. This is my personal point of view. > > My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic things). > > I have never done any drugs. Been offered and been around them more then > enough. Never smoked a cigarette in my life. Never drank until I > was...very close to 21. Never got in any trouble at school. My first job > led to the second job/career I have today. I enjoy my life, the people > around me and the things I have. > > My partner has 3 teenage girls. He is extremely strict. One of them gets > in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc. A friend I had in high > school was in the same position. I know where that person's life stands > today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our lives > would be at 23 or 24. > > I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing you with > my experiences, my results and my facts. > > Take the above for as much as you paid for it =) > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue > that counts.” > --- Winston Churchill > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I disagree >> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes, >> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are >> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may hurt >> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of >> safety, within reason. Just my opinion. >> >> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back. >> > >> > Josh Luthman >> > Office: 937-552-2340 >> > Direct: 937-552-2343 >> > 1100 Wayne St >> > Suite 1337 >> > Troy, OH 45373 >> > >> > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to >> continue >> > that counts.” >> > --- Winston Churchill >> > >> > >> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some discussion at >> a >> >> workshop I was at recently. >> >> >> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that was >> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept all >> those >> >> sorts of things. >> >> >> >> -Paul >> >> >> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: >> >> >> >> > Hi All, >> >> > >> >> > Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having >> email >> >> > addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having myspace, >> >> > facebook etc. sites. >> >> > >> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on. >> >> > >> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* >> can >> >> > delete things from. >> >> > >> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that >> >> might >> >> > bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually forgetting >> >> the >> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. >> >> > >> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail email >> >> > address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I >> finally >> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd >> >> been >> >> > saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when >> I >> >> got >> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I didn't >> >> know >> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the >> net >> >> and >> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) >> >> > >> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the >> >> deleted >> >> > information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he >> >> had >> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being >> >> hidden >> >> > from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email >> >> address. >> >> > >> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. >> >> However >> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!! They had >> NO >> >> > proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the child >> was >> >> over >> >> > 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account >> >> > information! "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was told. >> >> > >> >> > WTF is this??????? Absolutly amazing. >> >> > >> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids >> >> these >> >> > days? >> >> > >> >> > thanks >> >> > marlon >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> > WISPA Wants You! 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