What would my allowance be with no chores?

Another big thing...I never got an allowance.  I worked for my money
(odd jobs, helping people out, etc.)Before Rick that is.

IMO it's crap.  Giving a child money to do what is expected (help
cleaning and keeping up the house) just makes no sense.  Both my
parents came from a farm - work all day every day and in turn food and
a bed.

On 4/19/10, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
> Can I adopt you? :)
>
> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Josh Luthman
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Keep in mind I am 22 and have no kids.  This is my personal point of view.
>>
>> My parents never set guidelines or many rules (just the basic things).
>>
>> I have never done any drugs.  Been offered and been around them more then
>> enough.  Never smoked a cigarette in my life.  Never drank until I
>> was...very close to 21.  Never got in any trouble at school.  My first job
>> led to the second job/career I have today.  I enjoy my life, the people
>> around me and the things I have.
>>
>> My partner has 3 teenage girls.  He is extremely strict.  One of them gets
>> in to trouble, disobeys, does "wrong" things, etc.  A friend I had in high
>> school was in the same position.  I know where that person's life stands
>> today and I would say we could all agree it's not what we hoped our lives
>> would be at 23 or 24.
>>
>> I'm not judging how you or anyone parent, but rather just providing you
>> with
>> my experiences, my results and my facts.
>>
>> Take the above for as much as you paid for it =)
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>
>> “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue
>> that counts.”
>> --- Winston Churchill
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:26 PM, RickG <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Josh, I truly enjoy your posts regarding wireless but but I disagree
>>> with this. Its not about trust. We are all human and make mistakes,
>>> especially kids. As parents, we are not to assume our kids are
>>> perfect. Therefore, we SHOULD expect them to do things that may hurt
>>> or be bad for them. The best thing to do is error on the side of
>>> safety, within reason. Just my opinion.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:38 AM, Josh Luthman
>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> > Trust your kids and they will trust you back.
>>> >
>>> > Josh Luthman
>>> > Office: 937-552-2340
>>> > Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> > 1100 Wayne St
>>> > Suite 1337
>>> > Troy, OH 45373
>>> >
>>> > “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to
>>> continue
>>> > that counts.”
>>> > --- Winston Churchill
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger <[email protected]
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some discussion
>>> >> at
>>> a
>>> >> workshop I was at recently.
>>> >>
>>> >> How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that was
>>> >> discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept all
>>> those
>>> >> sorts of things.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Paul
>>> >>
>>> >> On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> > Hi All,
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Here's the scenario.  My kids are expressly forbidden from having
>>> email
>>> >> > addresses outside my domain.  They are forbidden from having
>>> >> > myspace,
>>> >> > facebook etc. sites.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check
>>> >> > on.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I*
>>> can
>>> >> > delete things from.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet
>>> >> > that
>>> >> might
>>> >> > bite them in the butt later.  The days of people eventually
>>> >> > forgetting
>>> >> the
>>> >> > stupidity of youth or passion are long gone.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account.  He used a hotmail
>>> >> > email
>>> >> > address to get it.  He had permission to use neither of them.  I
>>> finally
>>> >> > found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what
>>> >> > he'd
>>> >> been
>>> >> > saying.  His trash and sent messages had both been erased between
>>> >> > when
>>> I
>>> >> got
>>> >> > the password out of him and when I had time to check on it.  (I
>>> >> > didn't
>>> >> know
>>> >> > that his zune, a video player!!!! would ALSO allow him to get on the
>>> net
>>> >> and
>>> >> > work on his page, talk to his friends etc.  deep sigh)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the
>>> >> deleted
>>> >> > information.  I explained that I was the father of a minor and that
>>> >> > he
>>> >> had
>>> >> > no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being
>>> >> hidden
>>> >> > from me.  I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email
>>> >> address.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue.
>>> >>  However
>>> >> > they flatly refused to provide me with any information!!!!!  They
>>> >> > had
>>> NO
>>> >> > proof of age etc. on the account.  Nothing to verify that the child
>>> was
>>> >> over
>>> >> > 18 etc.  And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the
>>> >> > account
>>> >> > information!  "go get it from your teen" is basically what I was
>>> >> > told.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > WTF is this???????  Absolutly amazing.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your
>>> >> > kids
>>> >> these
>>> >> > days?
>>> >> >
>>> >> > thanks
>>> >> > marlon
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
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