Fred,
Many WISPs throttle throughput according to the terms of the contracted
service that each customer purchases. For example, if a WISP sells 1 Mb
down and 512k up then they limit throughput to somewhere near those
levels. Under those conditions, a customer can have a file or web
server and it does not adversely affect the overall WISP network
performance. This level of throughput management should come under the
"reasonable network management" definition that service providers are
allowed to perform. This throttling is also application-independent so
no selective throttling by application is needed. Finally, the
throttling is implemented in routing tables full time and once
programmed, it requires no human interaction.
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 8/3/2010 06:24 PM, Jack Unger wrote:
Why would customers
installing
file servers cause you a problem if you limited their throughput to the
Terms and Conditions of their contract where you would specify the
amount
of bandwidth that you were supplying them and limiting them to?
You could limit throughput "neutrally", provided that it
limited upstream file service and interactive applications like gaming
and telephony equally. That's basically what Comcast consented to
do. However, those applications usually require a person to be
there; content distribution runs 7x24. Their ToS (I'm a customer)
prohibited file and web servers; the FCC found that
unreasonable.
I do believe that if someone had complained about such activities on
Verizon's or ATT's part, the K-Mart FCC would have found it perfectly
desirable.
Fred Goldstein wrote:
At 8/3/2010 04:58 PM,
Mike
Hammett wrote:
That's what I don't
understand... some people are so for Net Neutrality, but every
unhappy incumbent customer is a potential sale.
I've long opposed "network neutrality" rules on grounds that it
could put most WISPs out of business. You'd be forced to live by
the same rules that the urban ILECs and CATVs do, even though your cost
of both last-mile capacity and middle mile (if rural) is much higher.
Thus you'd be required to allow customers to install file servers at
their subscriber locations, even though it's much cheaper (overall) to
have them at a fiber backbone site. Recall that Vuze, who made the
big stink, is a pR0n distributor using subscriber-site file servers and
home-user computers to undercut other CDNs on price.
I think Verizon actually favors such rules, on grounds that FiOS is
hurt
less than most others, including cable, and they'd be happy to see
WISPs
go away. (When I see them opposing it, I think of Bre'r Rabbit and
the brier patch.)
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