I'm going to agree with others...

Running outside legal limits doesn't look good to the FCC, and it sounds
like you are definitely running outside the limits since you are whining
about the ability to run your radios in a mode which seems to have no use
than to exceed the limits.

I will also add that if you're running all your radios hotter than they
should be that your nose floor problem is most likely self inflicted.   My
experience over the years is that radios are designed to run at a specific
tx power and if you're exceeding it you get a lot of out of channel bleed
over.  Even if the radios don't do this you are introducing far more rf
than is likely needed causing an overall rising of the noise floor.

Please don't interpret everyone's ire incorrectly.   We've just all either
dealt with an operator like you are now or have been an operator like you
are now.  And right now we're trying to gain credibility with the FCC which
is hard to do when some operators are flagrantly breaking the rules.  Which
makes us a bit grumpy.

I'm sure some of your neighbors out there would love to help you better
understand what you are doing to yourself and help you improve your
operations which will in turn improve your quality of service.   Heck, I'd
drive over there for a weekend if my schedule wasn't so packed.

In any case please ask for help in appropriate spots and let us help you
reap the rewards of a correctly and legally operating network.
On Feb 8, 2014 4:49 PM, "Art Stephens" <asteph...@ptera.com> wrote:

> Recent events make me wonder if the FCC is trying to muscle wisps out of
> these frequencies.
> Since we are primarily Ubiquiti equipment I can only speak from that
> platform.
> First the latest firmware update removes compliance test which for about
> 40% of our equipment deployed would render them unusable since 5735 - 5840
> runs at - 50dBm or higher noise levels in our area,
> Second is new product released only supports 5735 - 5840.
> Seems like DFS is such a pain that manufacturers do not want to mess with
> it.
> Case in point the new NanoBeam M series only support 5725-5850 for USA.
> Worldwide version which we are not allowed to buy or deploy supports
> 5170-5875.
>
> Seems the only alternative is to go with licensed P2MP which makes more
> money for the FCC and drives the cost of wireless internet up for both
> wisps and consumers.
>
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