For some reason they tried to keep this whole company and
product under wraps more than everything else. Dunno why, it's
not like one couldn't figure it out or pick it up from the
intended secrecy.
At least it worked for one person =P
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
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On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Josh Reynolds
<j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:
You're... out of the loop.
Josh Reynolds, CIO
SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com/>
On 08/05/2014 12:09 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> The PtMP.
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312>
>
> On 8/5/14, 4:09 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> What are you "what"ing?
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mhop...@indigowireless.com
<mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>
>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 3:08:12 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released
>>
>> Wait... whut?
>>
>>
>> Matt Hoppes
>> Director of Information Technology
>> Indigo Wireless
>> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312>
>>
>> On 8/5/14, 3:36 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>> Jamie,
>>>
>>> We're incredibly excited by your announcement, and
eagerly await PtMP ;)
>>>
>>> Josh Reynolds, CIO
>>> SPITwSPOTS
>>> www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com/>
>>>
>>> On 08/05/2014 11:30 AM, Jaime Fink wrote:
>>>> 4 for the same channel is our general recommendation
for the
>>>> integrated antenna, angles will vary based on link
power/distances,
>>>> worst case is about 85 +/- 5 degrees, if we're going
for max
>> performance.
>>>> That doesn't limit colocation on the tower at 4, that
number can go up
>>>> of course in different channels, and channel widths.
>>>>
>>>> We're finishing off a "colocation planner" in our
cloud tools that
>>>> automates those answers for you based on your radio
location link
>>>> plans, coming soon!
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Jaime
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 12:12 PM, "Mike Hammett"
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>> <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a bunch!
>>>>>
>>>>> So then is there a hard limit of 4 radios per
location or is that
>>>>> just best you could do with the integrated antenna model?
>>>>>
>>>>> Must there be an even distribution (every 90*)? I
assume not, so
>>>>> what's the minimum isolation?
>>>>>
>>>>> If I had 6' super high performance dishes, could I
put more than 4
>>>>> radios up? Not that I'm likely to use dishes that
big, but I do have
>>>>> towers with four backhauls already and I would like
some more in
>>>>> other directions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Just trying to figure out where the number four came
from and how
>>>>> hard is that number.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> *From: *"Jaime Fink" <ja...@mimosa.co
<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co> <mailto:ja...@mimosa.co
<mailto:ja...@mimosa.co>>>
>>>>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
>>>>> <mailto:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>>
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:38:12 PM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product
released
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>> Definitely wanted to clarify on your question/comment
on colocation
>>>>> capacities for the group.
>>>>>
>>>>> For the B5 backhaul PTP technology, colocation is in
separate
>>>>> directional paths, so 4 of the B5s can be colocated
sharing the same
>>>>> channels, but must be directionally coordinated, this
leverages
>>>>> integrated 1PPS GPS+GLONASS TDMA sync.
>>>>>
>>>>> As Fred pointed out nicely, the B5 has a fantastic
aperture
>>>>> efficiency integrated antenna that is about as clean
as there is out
>>>>> there, and the RF isolation techniques needed to get
us to that
>>>>> performance.
>>>>>
>>>>> No magic pixie dust, just great technology.
>>>>>
>>>>> Looking to the future, for sharing the same antenna
pattern/path, I
>>>>> absolutely see these capacities, but that will more
be leveraged for
>>>>> PTMP beamforming and MU-MIMO technology shared across
multiple
>>>>> clients. We’re on public record about the work that
we’re doing with
>>>>> our partner Quantenna on their next generation
technology they’ve
>>>>> announced for 2015 called 10G Wi-Fi. You can imagine
the amount of
>>>>> compute that takes, bordering more on magic pixie dust!
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *Jaime Fink* • *Mimosa* • *Chief Product Officer*
>>>>> 300 Orchard City Dr Ste 100 • Campbell • CA 95008 •
www.mimosa.co <http://www.mimosa.co/>
>>>>> <http://www.mimosa.co <http://www.mimosa.co/>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This email may contain confidential and privileged
material for the
>>>>> sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review,
use, distribution
>>>>> or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If
you are not the
>>>>> intended recipient (or authorized to receive for the
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>>>>> please contact the sender by reply email and delete
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>>>>> this message.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Mike Hammett
<wispawirel...@ics-il.net <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>
>>>>> <mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net
<mailto:wispawirel...@ics-il.net>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>From a TechCrunch article:
>>>>>
>>>>> The B5 backhaul radio is a piece of hardware that uses
>>>>> multiple-input and multiple-output (MIMO) technology
to provide
>>>>> up to 16 streams and 4 Gbps of output when
multiple radios are
>>>>> using the same channel.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now I wonder if that is four radios on the same
path? If so,
>>>>> that's pretty amazing.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>>> http://www.ics-il.com <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>
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>>>>>
>>
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>>>>> *From: *"Fred Goldstein" <fgoldst...@ionary.com
<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>
>>>>> <mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com
<mailto:fgoldst...@ionary.com>>>
>>>>> *To: *wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>
<mailto:wireless@wispa.org <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
>>>>> *Sent: *Tuesday, August 5, 2014 11:21:29 AM
>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product
released
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/5/2014 11:21 AM, Adair Winter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I didn't want to be negative nelly this morning. But
that was
>>>>> my thought also..
>>>>> I'm moving as much as possible to licensed links
because I
>>>>> can't hardly keep my 5Ghz PtP's running out of my
data center.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The 5 GHz band is getting quite crowded, but at
least this new
>>>>> radio seems to be efficient in how it uses the
spectrum. Any of
>>>>> these U-NII radios essentially transmits based on
demand. If
>>>>> traffic is 10 Mbps and the link is capable of 500
Mbps, it won't
>>>>> be on the air very much of the time. So it
doesn't need the
>>>>> frequency all to itself. We are doing a lot of
urban links and
>>>>> share the frequencies with all sorts of stuff,
including "Cable
>>>>> WiFi" (all over, even below 5250, ugh), but it
doesn't kill
>>>>> performance, at least for the type of moderate load
applications
>>>>> (mostly cameras) we're supporting on 5 GHz.
>>>>>
>>>>> We do most of the backhaul on higher frequencies
but 5 GHz is
>>>>> sometimes used as a backup to take over during rain
fade. During
>>>>> the storm last week that brought a tornado just a
few subway
>>>>> stops from downtown Boston, we even lost 11 GHz
links for time.
>>>>> The rainfall was off the charts for the second time
in a month.
>>>>> But 5 Ghz links hardly noticed it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also to Mimosa's credit, it comes with a 44 cm 25 dB
dish, whose
>>>>> narrowness helps with frequency reuse. It will
probably produce
>>>>> a lot less clutter than outdoor access points,
or even some
>>>>> indoor access points that use more power than
necessary. (We put
>>>>> a NanoBridge 5G25 on a hilltop and were able to
pick up WLANs
>>>>> inside office towers four miles away.) And they are
petitioning
>>>>> the FCC to open up 10 GHz under Part 90 (light
licensing, like
>> 3650).
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Matt Hoppes
>>>>> <mhop...@indigowireless.com
<mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>
>>>>> <mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com
<mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh dear.... so more backhauling noise on the
5GHz spectrum?
>>>>>
>>>>> AF5 + Mimosa....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt Hoppes
>>>>> Director of Information Technology
>>>>> Indigo Wireless
>>>>> +1 (570) 723-7312 <tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312>
<tel:%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/5/14, 9:31 AM, Dennis Burgess wrote:
>>>>> > Have to give them credit on the website. Nice
look J
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *_Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified
Trainer_**Author
>>>>> of "Learn
>>>>> > RouterOS- Second Edition
>>>>> >
<http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm>”
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support
>>>>> > Services
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Office*: 314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270>
<tel:314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270>>
>>>>> <tel:314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270>
<tel:314-735-0270 <tel:314-735-0270>>> *Website*:
>>>>> > http://www.linktechs.net
<http://www.linktechs.net/> <http://www.linktechs.net/>
>>>>> <http://www.linktechs.net/> – *Skype*:
>>>>> > linktechs
>>>>> > <skype:linktechs?call>
>>>>> > */ /**/-- Create Wireless Coverage’s with
>>>>> /*www.towercoverage.com
<http://www.towercoverage.com/> <http://www.towercoverage.com/>
>>>>> > <http://www.towercoverage.com/>*//*/–*900Mhz –
LTE – 3G
>>>>> – 3.65 – TV
>>>>> > Whitespace */
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>>>>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>
>>>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>
>>>>> <mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org
<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>>]
>>>>> > *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
>>>>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 05, 2014 7:49 AM
>>>>> > *To:* WISPA General List
>>>>> > *Subject:* [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product
released
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html
<http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Gino A. Villarini
>>>>> >
>>>>> > President
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com/>
<http://www.aeronetpr.com/>
>>>>> <http://www.aeronetpr.com
<http://www.aeronetpr.com/> <http://www.aeronetpr.com/>>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > @aeronetpr
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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>>>>> C: 806.231.7180 <tel:806.231.7180>
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