1) squid could solve 2) fake DNS reply (that would also break the Internet but it will speedup on your side)
Regards > I don't know, but I am interested in devices that could cache Windows > update and Apple updates... But it HAS to be transparent to the end users. > > I'd be willing to dedicate hardware and disk space to this iOS and > Windows update can often cause major traffic loads... > > And, if these updates were stored on a local server at my head end, > I'd be able to unrestrict traffic to them... making updates run > faster... looking better in the eyes of my clients... > > -- > On 10/30/2014 5:33 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >> Quick question, >> >> Maybe I missed something, but how did we go from traffic shaping and >> DPI devices to something that does caching for apple stuff? Those are >> two entirely different classes of products. >> >> Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer >> SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com> >> >> On 10/30/2014 01:30 PM, Chris Wright wrote: >>> >>> It can work on networks not behind a NAT. >>> >>> http://help.apple.com/serverapp/mac/4.0/#/apd6015d9573 >>> >>> Chris Wright >>> >>> Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/> >>> >>> *From:*[email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:38 PM >>> *To:* WISPA General List >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> >>> Okay, so it would be for networks behind a NAT. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Chris Wright" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:22:16 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> >>> Disregard my “AFAIK” answer. This is the real answer per >>> http://www.nbalonso.com/os-x-server-caching/ >>> >>> “The cache server registers online with Apple and provides it’s >>> public IP, your servers local IP, internal DNS name? (not sure of >>> the dns)” >>> >>> Chris Wright >>> >>> Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/> >>> >>> *From:*[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected]] >>> *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett >>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:12 PM >>> *To:* WISPA General List >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> >>> I couldn't see how other people are supposed to know you have one of >>> these caches running. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Chris Wright" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 30, 2014 3:10:36 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> >>> OSX Server is a $19.99 add-on to OSX Yosemite. You can virtualize >>> OSX in ESXi (of course it won’t be supported by Apple unless it’s >>> Apple hardware.) >>> >>> Chris Wright >>> >>> Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/> >>> >>> *From:*[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected]] >>> *On Behalf Of *Paul Conlin >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 28, 2014 10:57 AM >>> *To:* WISPA General List >>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> >>> Unless the caching server is free. Under what conditions does Apple >>> put one of these in? >>> >>> PC >>> Blaze Broadband >>> >>> On October 28, 2014 1:41:41 PM EDT, Josh Luthman >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don't think many people care about caching servers in this >>> regard. The issue isn't the upstream pipe filling up, it's all >>> the APs. >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Timothy Way <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> For those that are unaware of it you should take a look at >>> Apple's Caching Server 2. It is pretty cool, it provides >>> Apple software updates, iTunes content and basically >>> anything Apple in a local cache that is transparent to the >>> client. Apple looks at the source IP of the device asking >>> for content and tells it to hit the local IP of your caching >>> server. My day job is a Network Administrator at a technical >>> college. This has prevented the "APPLE DAYS OF DOOM" when >>> they release updates in regards to our open (public) >>> wireless network. >>> >>> Tim Way >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 4:48 AM, Paolo Di Francesco >>> <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> it depends on what you want/can achieve and how much >>> bandwidth you have >>> (and the experince you want to give to the users) >>> >>> In few words: those boxes do not invent bandwidth they >>> (all) try to >>> improve how you manage it. So those boxes are managing >>> the bandwidth >>> with their policies that could or could not fit your >>> policies. >>> >>> Some simple tricks will help you to move the traffic >>> locally (e.g. >>> Implementing local web-caching, local DNS, etc) but for >>> sure you have to >>> work on the infrastructure to optimize the traffic. The >>> nice thing, in >>> that case, is that you will be more aware of what your >>> users are doing >>> and how to make them happy; the bad part of the story is >>> that you have >>> to spend time (or consultants) to get it. For the >>> hardware, many are >>> using Mikrotik CCR or even slower/cheaper Mikrotik models. >>> >>> For sure investing more in infrastructure will help a lot :) >>> >>> Just my 2 cents >>> >>> >>> >>> > Having used Allot NetEnforcer for years, then moved to >>> Exinda for >>> > years, we are now considering removing bandwidth >>> managers altogether >>> > and relying solely on policing on radios, QoS policies >>> on core routers >>> > & layer 3 switches, and monitoring flows using Netflow. >>> > >>> > More work, but much less $$. Allows us to invest in >>> infrastructure >>> > rather than extraordinarily expensive bandwidth >>> management devices. >>> > >>> > *From:*[email protected] >>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>[mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>] >>> > *On Behalf Of *Larry A. Weidig >>> > *Sent:* Friday, October 24, 2014 10:17 PM >>> > *To:* WISPA General List >>> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> > >>> > Very interesting, thanks for the lead. Seems they have >>> a product and a >>> > library available. Have contacted them for additional >>> information. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > Larry A. Weidig ([email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>) >>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>> > (920) 452-0455 <tel:%28920%29%20452-0455>– >>> Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>> > (888) 489-9995 <tel:%28888%29%20489-9995>– Other >>> areas, toll-free >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> > *To: *[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 7:15:20 PM >>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> > >>> > should check out ipoque and their PACE engine >>> > >>> > Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer >>> > SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com >>> <http://www.spitwspots.com><http://www.spitwspots.com> >>> > >>> > On 10/24/2014 03:40 PM, Larry A. Weidig wrote: >>> > >>> > We have done some searching in this arena and have >>> only found a >>> > couple of what seem to be similar products available: >>> > >>> > Allot Communications - NetEnforcer (does a lot, costs >>> a lot so >>> > they live up to their name :) ) >>> > >>> > Netaxcel - Found it, did not dig far into it >>> > >>> > NetEqualizer - Reasonable, but not as featured as >>> Procera / Allot >>> > >>> > Emerging Technologies - We used to have one of their >>> boxes, would >>> > not EVER use again not because of the software / >>> hardware but the >>> > owner / lead developer which may have changed as it >>> was a long >>> > time ago we used this >>> > >>> > Overall it seemed Procera was the best solution, just >>> having a >>> > difficult time justifying the expense as well. I say >>> we all throw >>> > in $5K, hire some developers and get one made that we >>> have control >>> > over :) I have to believe some decent server quality >>> hardware >>> > running on an open source operating system with custom >>> code could >>> > fit the bill. Just don't have time to work on this myself. >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > Larry A. Weidig ([email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>) >>> > Excel.Net, Inc. – http://www.excel.net/ >>> > (920) 452-0455 <tel:%28920%29%20452-0455>– >>> Sheboygan/Plymouth area >>> > (888) 489-9995 <tel:%28888%29%20489-9995>– Other >>> areas, toll-free >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> > >>> > *From: *"Dave Barker" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > *To: *"WISPA General List" <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > *Sent: *Friday, October 24, 2014 4:38:16 PM >>> > *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] procera or similiar product >>> > >>> > Back to the original question, is there anything else >>> out there >>> > that does what Procera can do? >>> > >>> > >>> > On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:19 AM, Art Stephens >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> > <mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote: >>> > >>> > I can not speak for sales since we bought our Procera >>> through >>> > Powercode - but tech support has be very responsive using >>> > their web based support system. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > >>> > Arthur Stephens >>> > >>> > Senior Networking Technician >>> > >>> > Ptera Inc. >>> > >>> > PO Box 135 >>> > >>> > 24001 E Mission Suite 50 >>> > >>> > Liberty Lake, WA 99019 >>> > >>> > 509-927-7837 <tel:509-927-7837> >>> > >>> > ptera.com <http://ptera.com><http://ptera.com> >>> > >>> > facebook.com/PteraInc >>> <http://facebook.com/PteraInc><http://facebook.com/PteraInc> >>> | >>> > twitter.com/Ptera >>> <http://twitter.com/Ptera><http://twitter.com/Ptera> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> > >>> > >>> > "This message may contain confidential and/or propriety >>> > information, and is intended for the person/entity to >>> whom it >>> > was originally addressed. >>> > >>> > Any use by others is strictly prohibited. Please note >>> that any >>> > views or opinions presented in this email are solely >>> those of >>> > the author and are not intended to represent those of the >>> > company." >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 5:36 PM, heith >>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > So the last booth I visited at Wispa in Vegas was the >>> > Procera booth. I am hooked and want to learn more, but at >>> > $17k a pop it’s a little hard to swallow, as I would need >>> > to purchase 4 of them for my current locations that I >>> > serve. Are there any other solution I can look for to do >>> > similar functions that may be more cost effective? >>> > >>> > __ >>> > >>> > _I am also a little leery at the fact that I have left >>> > them 2 voice mail messages as well as sent an email from >>> > earlier this week with no return call. So that’s a concern >>> > if it takes a while to get sales support if tech support >>> > would be any different. So I was wanting some feed back >>> > from some actual users of their product or other similar >>> > products._ >>> > >>> > __ >>> > >>> > _Thanks_ >>> > >>> > _Heith_ >>> > >>> > _ >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wireless mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>> > >>> > _ >>> > >>> > _ >>> > >>> > __ >>> > >>> > __ >>> > >>> > ________________________________________________ >>> > Wireless mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>> > >>> > _ >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wireless mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>> > >>> > __ >>> > >>> > _ >>> > >>> > _ >>> > >>> > _________________________________________________ >>> > >>> > _Wireless mailing list_ >>> > >>> > [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>_ >>> > >>> > _http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>> > >>> > _ >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wireless mailing list >>> > [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]><mailto:[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless_ >>> > >>> > __ >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Wireless mailing list >>> > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Ing. 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