Maybe the device can be considered the POE injector?

On May 12, 2017 1:42 PM, "Paul McNary" <c...@northmo.net> wrote:

> So does that indicate that Dish and direct tv will also not be exempt in
> his interpretation?
>
> Paul
>
> On 5/12/2017 12:32 PM, Mitch wrote:
>
> Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector
>
> His take is if the device is outside and NOT getting power
>
> from inside the property it is located at then it is exempt (such as
>
> telco and CATV).
>
> If the outdoor device gets power from inside the property
>
> then it is NOT exempt.
>
> This is how I read it
>
> Mitch
>
>
>
>
> On 05/12/2017 11:16 AM, garrettshan...@vabb.com wrote:
>
> Considering V.A. doesn't have a separate certification for low voltage, I
>  certainly hope we're excluded. It would be difficult to get all of our
> technicians though a 3 year apprenticeship as required by law for a full
> certification.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: "Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>
> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2017 12:10pm
> To: "WISPA General List" <wireless@wispa.org> <wireless@wispa.org>
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs
>
> Ummm. We are exclusively  excluded. You even highlighted it.
>
> On May 12, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch <mi...@abetterwireless.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like all installers will have to be licensed Electricians
> for everything and anything that connects to a power source????
> Am I reading wrong?
>
>
> NFPA 70: DOCUMENT SCOPE
>
> 90.2 Scope.
> (A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and removal of electrical
> conductors, equipment, and raceways; signaling and communications
> conductors, equipment, and raceways; and optical fiber cables and raceways
> for the following:
> (1) Public and private premises, including buildings, structures, mobile
> homes, recreational vehicles, and floating buildings
> (2) Yards, lots, parking lots, carnivals, and industrial substations
> (3) Installations of conductors and equipment that connect to the supply
> of electricity
> (4) Installations used by the electric utility, such as office buildings,
> warehouses, garages, machine shops, and recreational buildings, that are
> not an integral part of a generating plant, substation, or control center
> *(B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:*
> (1) Installations in ships, watercraft other than floating buildings,
> railway rolling stock, aircraft, or automotive vehicles other than mobile
> homes and recreational vehicles
> Informational Note: Although the scope of this Code indicates that the
> Code does not cover installations in ships, portions of this Code are
> incorporated by reference into Title 46, Code of
> Federal Regulations, Parts 110–113.
> (2) Installations underground in mines and self-propelled mobile surface
> mining machinery and its attendant electrical trailing cable
> (3) Installations of railways for generation, transformation,
> transmission, energy storage, or distribution of power used exclusively for
> operation of rolling stock or installations used exclusively for signaling
> and communications purposes
> *(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control
> of communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used
> exclusively for such installations*
> (5) Installations under the exclusive control of an electric utility where
> such installations
> a. Consist of service drops or service laterals, and associated metering,
> or
> b. Are on property owned or leased by the electric utility for the purpose
> of communications, metering, generation, control, transformation,
> transmission, energy storage, or distribution of electric energy, or
> c. Are located in legally established easements or rights-of-way, or
> d. Are located by other written agreements either designated by or
> recognized by public service commissions, utility commissions, or other
> regulatory agencies having jurisdiction for such installations. These
> written agreements shall be limited to installations for the purpose of
> communications, metering, generation, control, transformation,
> transmission, energy storage, or distribution of electric energy where
> legally established easements or rights-of-way cannot be obtained. These
> installations shall be limited to federal lands, Native American
> reservations through the U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau of Indian
> Affairs, military bases, lands controlled by port authorities and state
> agencies and departments, and lands owned by railroads.
> *Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include
> those entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental
> law or regulation by public service/utility commissions and that install,
> operate, and maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or
> distribution systems) or communications systems (such as telephone, CATV,*
> *Internet, satellite, or data services). Utilities may be subject to
> compliance with codes and standards covering their regulated activities as
> adopted under governmental law or regulation.*
> Additional information can be found through consultation with the
> appropriate governmental bodies, such as state regulatory commissions, the
> Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and the Federal Communications
> Commission.
> (C) Special Permission. The authority having jurisdiction for enforcing
> this Code may grant exception for the installation of conductors and
> equipment that are not under the exclusive control of the electric
> utilities and are used to connect the electric utility supply system to the
> service conductors of the premises served, provided such installations are
> outside a building or structure, or terminate inside at a readily
> accessible location nearest the point of entrance of the service conductors.
>
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