Considering V.A. doesn't have a separate certification for low voltage, I  
certainly hope we're excluded. It would be difficult to get all of our 
technicians though a 3 year apprenticeship as required by law for a full 

-----Original Message-----
From: "Matt Hoppes" <>
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Subject: Re: [WISPA] New NEC rule it may hurt WISPs

Ummm. We are exclusively  excluded. You even highlighted it. 

On May 12, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch <[ ]( )> wrote:

Looks like all installers will have to be licensed Electricians
 for everything and anything that connects to a power source????
 Am I reading wrong?

90.2 Scope.
(A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and removal of electrical 
conductors, equipment, and raceways; signaling and communications conductors, 
equipment, and raceways; and optical fiber cables and raceways for the 
(1) Public and private premises, including buildings, structures, mobile homes, 
recreational vehicles, and floating buildings
(2) Yards, lots, parking lots, carnivals, and industrial substations
(3) Installations of conductors and equipment that connect to the supply of 
(4) Installations used by the electric utility, such as office buildings, 
warehouses, garages, machine shops, and recreational buildings, that are not an 
integral part of a generating plant, substation, or control center
(B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:
(1) Installations in ships, watercraft other than floating buildings, railway 
rolling stock, aircraft, or automotive vehicles other than mobile homes and 
recreational vehicles
Informational Note: Although the scope of this Code indicates that the Code 
does not cover installations in ships, portions of this Code are incorporated 
by reference into Title 46, Code of
Federal Regulations, Parts 110–113.
(2) Installations underground in mines and self-propelled mobile surface mining 
machinery and its attendant electrical trailing cable
(3) Installations of railways for generation, transformation, transmission, 
energy storage, or distribution of power used exclusively for operation of 
rolling stock or installations used exclusively for signaling and 
communications purposes
(4) Installations of communications equipment under the exclusive control of 
communications utilities located outdoors or in building spaces used 
exclusively for such installations
(5) Installations under the exclusive control of an electric utility where such 
a. Consist of service drops or service laterals, and associated metering, or
b. Are on property owned or leased by the electric utility for the purpose of 
communications, metering, generation, control, transformation, transmission, 
energy storage, or distribution of electric energy, or
c. Are located in legally established easements or rights-of-way, or
d. Are located by other written agreements either designated by or recognized 
by public service commissions, utility commissions, or other regulatory 
agencies having jurisdiction for such installations. These written agreements 
shall be limited to installations for the purpose of communications, metering, 
generation, control, transformation, transmission, energy storage, or 
distribution of electric energy where legally established easements or 
rights-of-way cannot be obtained. These installations shall be limited to 
federal lands, Native American reservations through the U.S. Department of the 
Interior Bureau of Indian Affairs, military bases, lands controlled by port 
authorities and state agencies and departments, and lands owned by railroads.
Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may include those 
entities that are typically designated or recognized by governmental law or 
regulation by public service/utility commissions and that install, operate, and 
maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or distribution 
systems) or communications systems (such as telephone, CATV,
Internet, satellite, or data services). Utilities may be subject to compliance 
with codes and standards covering their regulated activities as adopted under 
governmental law or regulation.
Additional information can be found through consultation with the appropriate 
governmental bodies, such as state regulatory commissions, the Federal Energy 
Regulatory Commission, and the Federal Communications Commission.
(C) Special Permission. The authority having jurisdiction for enforcing this 
Code may grant exception for the installation of conductors and equipment that 
are not under the exclusive control of the electric utilities and are used to 
connect the electric utility supply system to the service conductors of the 
premises served, provided such installations are outside a building or 
structure, or terminate inside at a readily accessible location nearest the 
point of entrance of the service conductors.

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