So does that indicate that Dish and direct tv will also not be exempt in his interpretation?


On 5/12/2017 12:32 PM, Mitch wrote:

Just got off the phone with our local State Inspector

His take is if the device is outside and NOT getting power

from inside the property it is located at then it is exempt (such as

telco and CATV).

If the outdoor device gets power from inside the property

then it is NOT exempt.

This is how I read it


On 05/12/2017 11:16 AM, wrote:

Considering V.A. doesn't have a separate certification for low voltage, I certainly hope we're excluded. It would be difficult to get all of our technicians though a 3 year apprenticeship as required by law for a full certification.

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Ummm. We are exclusively  excluded. You even highlighted it.

On May 12, 2017, at 11:50 AM, Mitch < <>> wrote:

    Looks like all installers will have to be licensed Electricians
    for everything and anything that connects to a power source????
    Am I reading wrong?

    90.2 Scope.
    (A) Covered. This Code covers the installation and removal of
    electrical conductors, equipment, and raceways; signaling and
    communications conductors, equipment, and raceways; and optical
    fiber cables and raceways for the following:
    (1) Public and private premises, including buildings, structures,
    mobile homes, recreational vehicles, and floating buildings
    (2) Yards, lots, parking lots, carnivals, and industrial substations
    (3) Installations of conductors and equipment that connect to the
    supply of electricity
    (4) Installations used by the electric utility, such as office
    buildings, warehouses, garages, machine shops, and recreational
    buildings, that are not an integral part of a generating plant,
    substation, or control center
    *(B) Not Covered. This Code does not cover the following:*
    (1) Installations in ships, watercraft other than floating
    buildings, railway rolling stock, aircraft, or automotive
    vehicles other than mobile homes and recreational vehicles
    Informational Note: Although the scope of this Code indicates
    that the Code does not cover installations in ships, portions of
    this Code are incorporated by reference into Title 46, Code of
    Federal Regulations, Parts 110–113.
    (2) Installations underground in mines and self-propelled mobile
    surface mining machinery and its attendant electrical trailing cable
    (3) Installations of railways for generation, transformation,
    transmission, energy storage, or distribution of power used
    exclusively for operation of rolling stock or installations used
    exclusively for signaling and communications purposes
    *(4) Installations of communications equipment under the
    exclusive control of communications utilities located outdoors or
    in building spaces used exclusively for such installations*
    (5) Installations under the exclusive control of an electric
    utility where such installations
    a. Consist of service drops or service laterals, and associated
    metering, or
    b. Are on property owned or leased by the electric utility for
    the purpose of communications, metering, generation, control,
    transformation, transmission, energy storage, or distribution of
    electric energy, or
    c. Are located in legally established easements or rights-of-way, or
    d. Are located by other written agreements either designated by
    or recognized by public service commissions, utility commissions,
    or other regulatory agencies having jurisdiction for such
    installations. These written agreements shall be limited to
    installations for the purpose of communications, metering,
    generation, control, transformation, transmission, energy
    storage, or distribution of electric energy where legally
    established easements or rights-of-way cannot be obtained. These
    installations shall be limited to federal lands, Native American
    reservations through the U.S. Department of the Interior Bureau
    of Indian Affairs, military bases, lands controlled by port
    authorities and state agencies and departments, and lands owned
    by railroads.
    *Informational Note to (4) and (5): Examples of utilities may
    include those entities that are typically designated or
    recognized by governmental law or regulation by public
    service/utility commissions and that install, operate, and
    maintain electric supply (such as generation, transmission, or
    distribution systems) or communications systems (such as
    telephone, CATV,*
    *Internet, satellite, or data services). Utilities may be subject
    to compliance with codes and standards covering their regulated
    activities as adopted under governmental law or regulation.*
    Additional information can be found through consultation with the
    appropriate governmental bodies, such as state regulatory
    commissions, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission, and the
    Federal Communications Commission.
    (C) Special Permission. The authority having jurisdiction for
    enforcing this Code may grant exception for the installation of
    conductors and equipment that are not under the exclusive control
    of the electric utilities and are used to connect the electric
    utility supply system to the service conductors of the premises
    served, provided such installations are outside a building or
    structure, or terminate inside at a readily accessible location
    nearest the point of entrance of the service conductors.

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