On 10/01/2009, at 6:50 AM, Matt Morgan-May wrote:

Hi,

Excuse me for jumping in here, especially (in this case) as a Flash
partisan. But I fail to see how this kind of project can be anything other
than a good thing overall.

What I don't understand is why people are instantly critical of projects that are actually attempting to increase access to new technology. I've heard a constant drumbeat of "don't use Flash: it's inaccessible" in the years I've been involved in the field. But if we don't have people pushing that envelope, doesn't that make that statement self-fulfilling prophecy? There are lots of us out there working on improving the accessibility of
both existing and future content authored in Flash.

There are many arguments to be made for HTML -- I made loads of them while working for W3C, all of which I would stand by today -- but it is not all things to all people. The fact is that many educators have found that they can use Flash to teach their students effectively. I'm not an educator by
profession, but my wife is, and she prefers Flash over HTML/CSS/JS to
develop her courseware. If you were to tell her she's wrong, especially
before seeing what kind of work she does, I think you'd probably find
yourself dodging a couple shelves' worth of education texts. Telling a
professional their tools are wrong is not the most endearing of approaches. In my opinion, the best one can do is to learn what they're doing, and offer
ways to make that output more efficient, more inclusive, and easier to
produce.

Teachers aren't usually web developers, and we shouldn't want them to be. So I'm all for companies taking on the technical problems so teachers can be
teachers, and so on.

Ultimately teachers should aim to teach the skills that are required of students entering the industry. It’s not uncommon that many secondary and tertiary IT and web media courses are grossly outdated. From my experience this is mostly attributed to the teacher’s education in the field which they received when they did their tertiary education in order to teach, and have since not remained up to date with new developments and sadly even standards. Money and a requirement to regularly attend courses to keep educators up to date help in this regard but nothing beats personal interest—the high school IT teacher that in their own time is actively involved in his or her field will be more likely to teach his students about the latest relevant and exciting bleeding edge technologies.

On a side note, my personal opinion on web media courses focusing on rich web content is that they should still entail the bare basics of HTML, XHTML, and CSS, with a toe-dip into JavaScript. These technologies are so fundamental to the web, and given their role as standards they should be part of any web-related courses.

Just my 2¢. Thanks for raising this topic. (:


—Pascal


Thanks,
M
Accessibility Engineer, Adobe

Christie Mason said:
Exactly right. I've sadly watched Flash take over eLearning and still haven't figured out the attraction, except that it offers the control of PPT while appearing to be "rich". There's only a very few types of web sites that still use Flash for delivering primary content - media sites, those that focus more on "look at me" instead of being a resource to their site
guests, and eLearning.

Since, supposedly, eLearning is about offering web based resources for learning it just doesn't make sense to me that it has ignored all the ways the web has supported, continues to support, learning w/o using Flash. Flash on the web is like cooking with garlic. A little adds depth, a lot is
inedible.




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