See: http://accessites.org/site/2007/02/graceful-degradation-progressive-enhancement/4/
On Fri, January 30, 2009 12:29 pm, [email protected] wrote: > Agreed - people certainly aren't getting any smarter as far as web > technologies go. Particuarly as the web is now viewed as a common > commodity > that virtually everyone has access to. In the old days, it was more or > less > used exclusively by tech savvy users; it was very far from the plug and > play > service it is now. > > Unless an automated system is switching off javascript for the end user, > from my experience the vast user base of the common population isn't going > to actively go into settings and make a conscious effort to switch it off. > The vast majority don't even know what it is. I, for one, will carry on > designing sites on the basis that the chances of someone using a > javascript > disabled browser stumbling across me is minimal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of David Dixon > Sent: 26 January 2009 22:50 > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [WSG] Users who deliberately disable JavaScript > > Again, can you show that the small decline in IE's market share has > contributed to users blocking Javascript or using specific Firefox > extensions? > > IE has had plugins such as the Web Accessibility Toolbar etc for some > years > now that allow disabling of Javascript very easily, so why would the usage > of another browser and additional extensions change this? > > People do change their viewing habits all the time, and migrations between > browsers will continue (whether to IE detriment or not), it doesn't mean > people are getting smarter or that they are concerned at all about > Javascript (im sure the security concerns over IE6/7 that have talked > about > over in the mainstream news networks over the past couple of years have > had > nothing to do with Javascript, and are far more related to Microsoft's > proprietary ActiveX functionality). > > If memory serve's, the "people are getting smarter" observation has been > stated on this mailing list since its inception, and we've yet to see any > evidence of this. > > David > > David Lane wrote: >> Agreed - the level of savvy of most user is absurdly low, and at >> present few will know what Javascript is, much less how to disable it. >> The question is whether people today design for today's users, or >> tomorrow's... >> >> The trend will continue towards more sophisticated users, using better >> browsers (i.e. not IE) which support useful plugins like NoScript and >> their analogues for Opera, Webkit, etc. >> >> I suspect as more and more people get burned by identity theft and >> other forms of exploitation, the pain individuals experience will >> provide a strong motivation for learning. Also, organisations will >> increasingly make that decision on behalf of their users to minimise >> their own risk... >> >> Cheers, >> >> Dave >> > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [email protected] > ******************************************************************* > > > > ******************************************************************* > List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm > Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm > Help: [email protected] > ******************************************************************* > > ******************************************************************* List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [email protected] *******************************************************************
