as there are multiple opinions and some limitations I can see only one 
solution that could satisfy every user: to let user edit message content for 
the fixed button RRR. This way users would set this automatic message as they 
like. 

73 Igor UA3DJY  


[wsjt-devel] Expedited JT65A (HF) procedure example, was RR73 message button
From: Parker Dinkins <parker@ma...> - 2015-12-11 20:20:53
I don't think one dedicated message button (such as 'RR73') will work for 
everyone's purpose.

>Пятница, 11 декабря 2015, 20:47 +03:00 от Игорь Ч <[email protected]>:
>
>now you make me believer in the pseudocalls approach, implemented by HB9HQX in 
>the latest version of JT65-HF and described there  
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/jt65hfhb9hqxedi/files/jt65-hf_dll%20-%20Source/
>where CQ DX, CQ NA replaced and transmitted as E9DX, E9NA, although it is not 
>compatible with the latest WSJT-X releases.
>
>probably some simple encoding of the long sequence of words with +/-(or dot or 
>comma) code like +0....+9, -0....-9 can address most future requirements for 
>the long messages in WSJT-X.
>
>Regards,
>
>Igor
>
>>Пятница, 11 декабря 2015, 11:22 -06:00 от Michael Black < [email protected] 
>>>:
>>
>>One downside is that R73 won't compress so you may not be able to respond to 
>>some call signs properly
>>
>>RRR
>>Mike W9MDB
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>>On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Игорь Ч  < [email protected] > wrote:
>>>>resending the message, there may still be possibility to change standard 
>>>>QSO exchange sequence:
>>>>
>>>>Statistics showing different behaviour of users.
>>>>
>>>>I see there is restriction for RR73 as it is matching to the grid square.
>>>>
>>>>Just wondering: is there any obstacle to use R73 message instead of the RRR 
>>>>one?
>>>>
>>>>73 Igor
>>>>
>>>>Пятница, 11 декабря 2015, 8:24 -06:00 от Michael Black < 
>>>>[email protected] >:
>>>>
>>>>That's why education is important....if you look in the help file you'll 
>>>>find the standard exchange.  I know most people will never read that...so 
>>>>perhaps we need some pop up the first time you send an RRR which is then 
>>>>suppressed which says "FYI....RRR is the last message needed for the 
>>>>calling side of a JT QSO...no 73 is needed...see help file"
>>>>
>>>>I got educated and quit using it. RRR Mike W9MDB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Пятница, 11 декабря 2015, 16:51 +03:00 от Игорь Ч < [email protected] >:
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Mike,
>>>>>
>>>>>That is exactly what happens: after the RRR message most users consider as 
>>>>>polite way to send the 73 mesage.
>>>>>
>>>>>Alternative option could be R73.
>>>>>
>>>>>73 Igor
>>>>>
>>>>>Re: [wsjt-devel] RR73 message button
>>>>>From: Michael Black <mdblack98@gm...> - 2015-12-11 13:23:54
>>>>>Attachments: Message as HTML 
>>>>>We've gone through this discussion before...I used to think it was a good
>>>>>idea too. But...RR73 is a grid location...and RRR is the last message for
>>>>>the CQ side of the QSO...not 73.
>>>>>So you don't save any time by doing RR73 unless you would otherwise do an
>>>>>RRR followed by an unnecessary 73.
>>>>>It's just hard to drop the habit of using 73 like you use on every other
>>>>>protocol.
>>>>>RRR :-)
>>>>>Mike W9MDB
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Пятница, 11 декабря 2015, 12:15 +03:00 от Игорь Ч < [email protected] >:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi Joe and all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have checked statistics based on the All.txt file: at least every 
>>>>>>second operator transmit manually generated message RR73 or 'RRR 73' 
>>>>>>instead of the standard RRR message. File with the summary and raw data 
>>>>>>in MS Excel format is located there:  
>>>>>>https://cloud.mail.ru/public/4KBg/UoqJWw6rK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Summary does not include scenario where some operators use 73 message 
>>>>>>instead of the RRR one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are three reasons to modify user interface with this message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. It should reduce spectrum usage and interference on the overcrowded HF 
>>>>>>bands
>>>>>>2. It will make GUI  more user friendly one
>>>>>>3. It will save time, both, in terms of the QSO length and manual message 
>>>>>>generation
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Also possibility to activate prompt for QSO logging on the RR73 message 
>>>>>>would benefit users. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>May I ask to consider the code change in some future release, please?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>73 Igor UA3DJY
>>>>
>>>
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