Maybe just add an option to display RRR 73 whenever the RRR message is 
received, and to show RRR as RRR 73 on the transmit side, without actually 
changing the protocol. I’m not up on the structure of the JT65 messages but I 
suspect that RRR is just a single bit set somewhere in the message, or perhaps 
an unused grid code, so the interpretation is up to the program.

 

RR73 does drive me a little crazy on HF as the standard response to it is to 
send a signal report.

 

73,

Chris 

 

From: Michael Black [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 9:24 AM
To: Игорь Ч <[email protected]>; WSJT software development 
<[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] RR73 message button

 

That's why education is important....if you look in the help file you'll find 
the standard exchange.  I know most people will never read that...so perhaps we 
need some pop up the first time you send an RRR which is then suppressed which 
says "FYI....RRR is the last message needed for the calling side of a JT 
QSO...no 73 is needed...see help file"

I got educated and quit using it.

RRR

Mike W9MDB


 
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 7:51 AM, Игорь Ч <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hi Mike,

That is exactly what happens: after the RRR message most users consider as 
polite way to send the 73 mesage.

Alternative option could be R73.

73 Igor

Re: [wsjt-devel] RR73 message button
From: Michael Black <mdblack98@gm...> - 2015-12-11 13:23:54
Attachments: Message as HTML 
We've gone through this discussion before...I used to think it was a good
idea too. But...RR73 is a grid location...and RRR is the last message for
the CQ side of the QSO...not 73.
So you don't save any time by doing RR73 unless you would otherwise do an
RRR followed by an unnecessary 73.
It's just hard to drop the habit of using 73 like you use on every other
protocol.

RRR :-)
Mike W9MDB





Пятница, 11 декабря 2015, 12:15 +03:00 от Игорь Ч <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> >:

Hi Joe and all,

I have checked statistics based on the All.txt file: at least every second 
operator transmit manually generated message RR73 or 'RRR 73' instead of the 
standard RRR message. File with the summary and raw data in MS Excel format is 
located there: https://cloud.mail.ru/public/4KBg/UoqJWw6rK

Summary does not include scenario where some operators use 73 message instead 
of the RRR one.

There are three reasons to modify user interface with this message:

1. It should reduce spectrum usage and interference on the overcrowded HF bands
2. It will make GUI  more user friendly one
3. It will save time, both, in terms of the QSO length and manual message 
generation

Also possibility to activate prompt for QSO logging on the RR73 message would 
benefit users. 

May I ask to consider the code change in some future release, please?

73 Igor UA3DJY 

 


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