> Perhaps this is a subject better for a QRZ forum?

I agree. I drifted off list topic. Im going to stop answering, and will move to 
QRZ. 

I absolutely agree with Steve's comments on the quality of WSJT-X and Hamlib, 
and associate myself with his comments.

See you on QRZ.

Thanks. Robert. AD6I.

On Mon, Jun 29, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Stephen VK3SIR wrote:
> Dave,
> 
> Sorry I have to step in here.
> 
> > Seriously, I do think Ham Radio software does need to adopt some modern 
> > architecture principles. 
> 
> ABSOLUTE GARBAGE in my opinion ... that attitude puts Amateur Radio and 
> its people back into the stone age .... 
> 
> You move away from standards you get uncontrolled, unmanageable chaos. 
> It is one of the basic rules of engineering and social sciences. 
> Whether one likes it or not AR is really Amateur Applied Engineering as 
> it crosses not only technical but also social boundaries.
> 
> You promote and set bad examples (not just technical - also 
> behavioural) and bad examples just promulgate into fact.
> 
> Let me raise the classic "fact" example that I use all the time that is 
> used to diminish AR and its people - The "Off Centre Fed Dipole". How 
> can an dipole by scientific definition be fed off centre? Yet this 
> appears time and time and time again in ARRL Manuals etc.... and this 
> one example is OFTEN used at high engineering levels to put Amateur 
> Radio and its technical competence down.
> 
> [ Ps... it is an Off-Centre-Fed Antenna not dipole ]
> 
> I will compliment Joe, Bill and Steve with WSJT-X. They have done an 
> AMAZING thing and created AMAZING software under AMAZING engineering 
> principles. As a simple their practise for even instantiating the 
> objects that bring the whole GUI environ to live has set standards 
> across the whole software engineering world. Their latest effort in 
> compartmentalising the whole software structure (rather than just 
> monolithic inside the same directory structure) is nothing short of 
> pure brilliance and sets examples for the WHOLE engineering world that 
> they themselves are following.
> 
> Yet.. There are some practises that can and could potentially occur 
> that could drift away from good standards ... Also remember that 
> software should work to interfaces; software should not DRIVE the 
> interfaces.
> 
> This project and the people that communicate here are better than 
> world-class. The associated but equally important people here are the 
> people that work on Hamlib - and they are equally better than world 
> class.
> 
> Sometimes some of us drop ideas and concepts into here (as I did the 
> other day with the Software uninstall-before-new-deployment "lobby") in 
> order to keep the project here as one of leading edge best example 
> practise. It is known that developers do appreciate such comments as it 
> also keeps them thinking about how to do things better.
> 
> Everything that we do better enhances the opinion of AR in the 
> community - when AR is considered by many (including Government and 
> Business) to be dead and dying and an old grumpy-man's delusional 
> playground. It is this opinion that many of us are FIGHTING hard to 
> break. With the examples set here and with Hamlib we go a long way to 
> doing this.
> 
> If we want our "passion" (being AR) to survive we need to show the 
> world that we are serious; we need to keep what we are doing as 
> "serious". We need not let half-truths promulgate as that diminishes us 
> all and our "passion".
> 
> Perhaps this is a subject better for a QRZ forum?
> 
> Grrrrrrr ... but 73.
> 
> Steve I
> VK3VM / VK3SIR
> 
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