I had sent this on the 16th of April but did not get a response… I believe these are germane questions – and as far as I’ve been able to tell they are not addressed in the manual. These pertain to the use of “average” when running Q65. I’ve asked these questions in the EME group – no one knew the answers but were also interested.
1) Does average apply to each of multiple signals in the window? 2) Is there a separate average queue for 1st and 2nd sequence? (would be great if RXing both looking for stns) 3) IF each signal has its own average: and if Auto Clear is on does it only clear the averages for those that have now decoded or 4) if only one station decodes and there are say 3 stations there (in the averages) do all the averages now get cleared out? I assumed 4. Which is why I turned off auto clear since if it is 4 above it would never do an average if Lance, in the even cycle, always decoded. And as mentioned I went from 0 averages in the AVG DEC window with it on to several ongoing with it off. Gary K9RX Sent from Mail for Windows From: K9RX Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 12:05 PM To: WSJT software development Cc: Joe Taylor Subject: RE: [wsjt-devel] Q65 false decode Joe, Thank you. Indeed I did not have auto clear turned on. I have always had it on until recently. I had found, when Lance was trying out contest mode using your new software for his trip, that I had decodes (average) when I had it turned off (and no AVG DEC when on). NOTE this was while listening so I’m receiving a decode most every even cycle from Lance but I also want to decode those calling him (odd). So – questions if I may please (I just re-read the manual to be clear this is not addressed there): 5) Does average apply to each of multiple signals in the window? 6) Is there a separate average queue for 1st and 2nd sequence? (would be great if RXing both looking for stns) 7) And if so if auto clear is on does it only clear the averages for those that have now decoded or 8) if only one decode comes in and there are say 3 stations there (in the averages)) do all the averages now get cleared out? I assumed 4. Which is why I turned off auto clear since if it is 4 above it would never do an averages if Lance always decoded. And as mentioned I went from 0 averages in the AVG DEC window with it on to several ongoing with it off. Gary K9RX Sent from Mail for Windows From: Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2023 11:48 AM To: WSJT software development Cc: Joe Taylor Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 false decode Hi Gary and Don: Those are not false decodes. They are not spurious decodes. Evidently you have "Enable averaging" turned on, but not "Auto Clear Avg after decode". And you did not do a "Clear Avg" manually. Not a good plan, generally, for the type of operating you are doing. You must learn to use these tools -- it's not all automated, nor could it be. The operator is important, and must make informed choices. Like all other settings, the "Save all" setting is specific to each Configuration you have defined. -- 73, Joe, K1JT On 4/16/2023 9:55 AM, Don Hawbaker via wsjt-devel wrote: > I have noticed a similar problem. Spurious decode. Sometimes the old > decode can even be from a previous contact. Very strange. Never did > this before. v2.6 > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Apr 16, 2023, at 9:30 AM, K9RX via wsjt-devel >> <wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> Hello all. >> >> I was running Q65-60A on 6M EME this morning. I am using version 2.6.0 >> b15b7. I have DEEP and ENA AVG turned on. I decoded the station I was >> calling every sequence. However twice WSJT decoded the “proper” signal >> (right doppler and seq) but then decoded, in the AVG window, a 2^nd >> that was one sequence previously. Unfortunately I didn’t see that my >> TX then reverted back to the original and was not the follow on >> (proper one). >> >> This happened again the next sequence but I caught it that time. >> Unfortunately I do not normally have SAVE turned on so I don’t have >> the data file. >> >> I mentioned this as an FYI re false decodes. I don’t remember ever >> getting this before (this version). >> >> But I have a question: I have Q65-60A as a configuration and switch to >> it when doing EME. Can I set the SAVE as on for this config and will >> it then be off for the other configs I have built? >> >> Gary >> >> K9RX >> >> You can see below at 1303 I got, at -24, his RX3. WSJT started to send >> TX4 at 1304. Then it (almost) immediately decoded his TX1 and WSJT >> switched back to TX2. I did not catch this. The next sequence you can >> see this repeated at 1307. I have since turned on SAVE DECODED and >> finally you can see false (AVG) decodes at 1309 – 1317. He was not >> transmitting during these sequences. I can send tis file if that would >> help. >> >> *1302 Tx 1500 : W5WP K9RX -26* >> >> *1303 -24 2.8 1442 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q3* >> >> *1304 Tx 1500 : W5WP K9RX RRR* >> >> *1303 -24 2.8 1447 : K9RX W5WP EM00 q35* >> >> *1304 Tx 1500 : W5WP K9RX -24* >> >> *1305 -19 2.8 1439 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q3* >> >> *1306 Tx 1500 : W5WP K9RX RRR* >> >> *1307 -24 2.8 1439 : K9RX W5WP RRR q3* >> >> *1308 Tx 1500 : W5WP K9RX 73* >> >> *1307 -23 2.8 1441 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q37* >> >> *1308 Tx 1500 : W5WP K9RX 73* >> >> *1309 -24 2.8 1441 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q38* >> >> *1311 -26 2.8 1441 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q39* >> >> *1313 -28 2.8 1441 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q3** >> >> *1315 -29 2.8 1441 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q3** >> >> *1317 -31 2.8 1441 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q3** >> >> *1319 -32 2.8 1441 : K9RX W5WP R-32 q3** >> >> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for >> Windows >> >> _______________________________________________ >> wsjt-devel mailing list >> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel _______________________________________________ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
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