You meant "xorg-server", not "xors-server".
Chris -- Can I hijack this thread to ask if you have any insight into a
question which the macports and vtk lists haven't been able to answer: Is it
possible to use OpenGL 3.2 on macOS, using mesa and X from MacPorts? mesa
17.1.6 ought to support OpenGL 4.5, but glxinfo (from macports) says it's only
2.1, and vtk requires at least 3.2.
Thanks.
-- Steve
On 8/31/18, 12:53 PM, "X11-users on behalf of Christopher Jones"
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
on behalf of [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,
On 31 Aug 2018, at 5:14 pm, David <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Jeremyhu is listed as the maintainer of xorg-server on MacPorts.
does he spend more time working on that than XQuartz?
I cannot comment on Jeremy’s intentions w.r.t. XQuartz, but he has (a couple
times I think) mentioned on these mailing lists he was considering stopping
XQuartz releases and focussing exclusively on the MacPorts versions as the
primary distribution means.
I can comment on MacPorts, as I am a member. The
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related ports are indeed more up to date there, and whilst Jeremy is listed as
the primary maintainer, there are a number of other interested parties (myself
included) who also contribute. In fact there are a number of things ongoing
right now looking to update a few
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components. This is the big advantage compared to XQuartz, in that anyone who
wants to can contribute to it within MacPorts. X11 is certainly not dead in
MacPorts, and I do recommend anyone using the server to look to migrating to
use the MacPorts supplied version (port name is xors-server).
Chris
David
On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:51 PM,
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wrote:
4. Re: Is XQuartz development abandoned? (Filhol Alain)
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Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 23:51:01 +0200
From: Filhol Alain <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Is XQuartz development abandoned?
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Here the answer I got from Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia on 02 Feb 2017.
I think we can be real pessimistic concerning X11 on macOS.
[AF] A question about slow dialogues with OpenMotif and XQuartz (much slower
than with Linux).
[JHS] <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
There is a known issue there, I believe with Yosemite and newer versions of
macOS (maybe Mavericks+, maybe ElCap+, I forget exactly). The issue is below
us in CoreGraphics and won't really be fixed on Apple's side as doing so would
fix this case but cause bad performance penalties for every single other case
out there. The real solution is to get XQuartz off of libXplugin and start
using more modern macOS APIs (eg: finishing up libxcwm), but there's not really
anyone actively working on that right now.
[AF] Are you the only one involved in XQuartz developments ?
[JHS] Yes, and I spend significantly less than 1% of my time on it ... barely
enough to just pull in upstream changes, build, and ship.
[AF] [...] but people are reluctant in using them on Macintoshes because of
that problem of slowness.
[JHS] If you're interested in working on the replacement, I can point you in
the right direction. It's maybe 60% done ... all by a group of college seniors
at PSU.
--Jeremy
Alain
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