X.org <http://x.org/> is not the home of xorg-server. Do you have MacPorts installed? (If not, check here: https://www.macports.org/install.php)
Once MacPorts is installed, simply run "sudo port install xorg-server" After this finishes, you should see X11.app in Applications -> MacPorts This X11.app works exactly the same as the one installed by XQuartz. John On Aug 31, 2018, at 11:21 AM, Mick Mueck <mick.mu...@mac.com> wrote: Hi again, I just took a look at the X.org <http://x.org/> site referenced in a reply below. Chris Jones said: The X.Org <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FX.Org&data=02%7C01%7Cstephen.langer%40nist.gov%7C16d7bdea424a40c252fb08d60f62363f%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C636713311816445770&sdata=zJ%2FoQUGW04oX3qmGmcL7kKwJ9aeiCM4nO%2BDA%2FfTvYNs%3D&reserved=0> related ports are indeed more up to date there I went to the downloads mirror and it looks like the most recent thing downloadable is even older than XQuartz (unless I'm missing something): https://www.x.org/wiki/Releases/Download/ I'll happily use whatever is newer that's out there, but even in the really old stuff I came across I didn't see any simple installer. While I might flatter myself a little and say I'm a techie, it looked like the X.org <http://x.org/> stuff wasn't going to be easy to install. I'm looking for pretty much the same sort of thing that XQuartz provides and I'd be thrilled if that came with Mac-style windows that could be resized on all sides. Sadly, I'm just a user (not a developer)... I just don't know what I'm going to do when some future OS X update renders XQuartz broken. Regards, Mick On 2018.0831, at 14:03, Cheng-Yang Tan <cytan...@yahoo.com> wrote: I have a few questions: If I run the xorg-server from macports, then 1. Do I still have to start Xquartz? 2. Does xorg-server have a window manager? 3. Are there any instructions on how to run xorg-server? (I don't know where .xinitrc is on my Mac but are there any .x* files that need to be changed?) Thanks! cytan On Friday, August 31, 2018, 12:10:41 PM CDT, Langer, Stephen A. (Fed) < stephen.lan...@nist.gov> wrote: You meant "xorg-server", not "xors-server". Chris -- Can I hijack this thread to ask if you have any insight into a question which the macports and vtk lists haven't been able to answer: Is it possible to use OpenGL 3.2 on macOS, using mesa and X from MacPorts? mesa 17.1.6 ought to support OpenGL 4.5, but glxinfo (from macports) says it's only 2.1, and vtk requires at least 3.2. Thanks. -- Steve On 8/31/18, 12:53 PM, "X11-users on behalf of Christopher Jones" < x11-users-bounces+stephen.langer=nist....@lists.apple.com on behalf of jon...@hep.phy.cam.ac.uk> wrote: Hi, On 31 Aug 2018, at 5:14 pm, David <da...@kdbarto.org> wrote: Jeremyhu is listed as the maintainer of xorg-server on MacPorts. does he spend more time working on that than XQuartz? I cannot comment on Jeremy’s intentions w.r.t. XQuartz, but he has (a couple times I think) mentioned on these mailing lists he was considering stopping XQuartz releases and focussing exclusively on the MacPorts versions as the primary distribution means. I can comment on MacPorts, as I am a member. The X.Org <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FX.Org&data=02%7C01%7Cstephen.langer%40nist.gov%7C16d7bdea424a40c252fb08d60f62363f%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C636713311816445770&sdata=zJ%2FoQUGW04oX3qmGmcL7kKwJ9aeiCM4nO%2BDA%2FfTvYNs%3D&reserved=0> related ports are indeed more up to date there, and whilst Jeremy is listed as the primary maintainer, there are a number of other interested parties (myself included) who also contribute. In fact there are a number of things ongoing right now looking to update a few X.Org <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2FX.Org&data=02%7C01%7Cstephen.langer%40nist.gov%7C16d7bdea424a40c252fb08d60f62363f%7C2ab5d82fd8fa4797a93e054655c61dec%7C1%7C0%7C636713311816455775&sdata=aRmMODzcfHZMi11aJpp1pnEFUOvItezL0Ug%2BjSRKxjg%3D&reserved=0> components. This is the big advantage compared to XQuartz, in that anyone who wants to can contribute to it within MacPorts. X11 is certainly not dead in MacPorts, and I do recommend anyone using the server to look to migrating to use the MacPorts supplied version (port name is xors-server). Chris David On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:51 PM, x11-users-requ...@lists.apple.com wrote: 4. Re: Is XQuartz development abandoned? (Filhol Alain) Message: 4 Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 23:51:01 +0200 From: Filhol Alain <fil...@ill.eu> To: x11-users@lists.apple.com Subject: Re: Is XQuartz development abandoned? Message-ID: <20242b12-9c0d-4a0d-8b63-7d8686269...@ill.eu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Here the answer I got from Jeremy Huddleston Sequoia on 02 Feb 2017. I think we can be real pessimistic concerning X11 on macOS. [AF] A question about slow dialogues with OpenMotif and XQuartz (much slower than with Linux). [JHS] <jerem...@freedesktop.org> There is a known issue there, I believe with Yosemite and newer versions of macOS (maybe Mavericks+, maybe ElCap+, I forget exactly). The issue is below us in CoreGraphics and won't really be fixed on Apple's side as doing so would fix this case but cause bad performance penalties for every single other case out there. The real solution is to get XQuartz off of libXplugin and start using more modern macOS APIs (eg: finishing up libxcwm), but there's not really anyone actively working on that right now. [AF] Are you the only one involved in XQuartz developments ? [JHS] Yes, and I spend significantly less than 1% of my time on it ... barely enough to just pull in upstream changes, build, and ship. [AF] [...] but people are reluctant in using them on Macintoshes because of that problem of slowness. [JHS] If you're interested in working on the replacement, I can point you in the right direction. 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