That may be what I need actually, because I have to wipe the OS on our
current (physical) headnode to upgrade from RHEL5 to RHEL6 and I need
something (a VM HA management node) up and functional while I am doing that
to service the cluster.

-Josh


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:32 PM, Lissa Valletta <lis...@us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Highly Available management nodes  makes sure  that if one Management
> Server goes down there is one configured that can take over.    Only one
> Management Server at a time is active.
>
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> [image: Inactive hide details for Josh Nielsen ---01/09/2014 03:13:09
> PM---Thank you Xiao Peng Wang, that information is useful. I am t]Josh
> Nielsen ---01/09/2014 03:13:09 PM---Thank you Xiao Peng Wang, that
> information is useful. I am thinking that, in that case, Service Node
>
> From: Josh Nielsen <jniel...@hudsonalpha.org>
> To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
> Date: 01/09/2014 03:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [xcat-user] How to create and deploy an xCAT Service Node
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> Thank you Xiao Peng Wang, that information is useful. I am thinking
> that, in that case, Service Nodes are not what I need after all. Our
> cluster is not at a scale yet that requires additional repositories to
> pull software updates from (which SNs look like they are designed
> for). Rather I need additional management points. I looked a little
> further and it looks like Highly Available Management Nodes are what I
> need:
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/xcat/index.php?title=Highly_Available_Management_Node
> .
>
> I do have a question about the Service Nodes though since I've already
> begun configuring them:
>
> In the Service Node setup documentation on the wiki, under the heading
> "Add OS and Hardware Attributes to Service Nodes" they tell you to do
> a chdef with parameters like:
>
> chdef -t group service arch=x86_64 os=centos6.4 nodetype=osi ...
>
> My question is about the "nodetype". I will be deploying to VMs acting
> as the SNs, so should the nodetype not rather be "nodetype=vm"? What
> does "nodetype=osi" as an "osimage" even mean when applied to a
> physical or virtual machine?
>
> When I do an lsdef on the nodes (that will be on VMs) I see:
> # lsdef service
>    arch=x86_64
>    groups=service,ipmi,all
>    installnic=mac
>    ip=172.20.3.1
>    netboot=xnba
>    nfsserver=10.X.X.X
>    nodetype=osi
>    ...
> Object name: xcat-serv2
>    arch=x86_64
>    groups=service,ipmi,all
>    installnic=mac
>    ip=172.20.3.2
>    netboot=xnba
>    nfsserver=10.X.X.X
>    nodetype=osi
>    ..
>
> But the VMs are vms and not osimages. I'm just wondering about the
> semantics of what "osi/osimage" indicates should be done to a node or
> how it will affect deployment.
>
> Thanks,
> Josh
>
> On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Xiao Peng Wang <w...@cn.ibm.com> wrote:
> > The doc mentioned by Josh will lead you in the correct direction to setup
> > Service Node.
> >
> > Several information for you:
> >
> > Roughly, your understand is correct that you can install and configure a
> SN
> > automatically when prepare/configure correctly for SNnode definition
> > (correct group like service, correct attribute like postscripts, correct
> > osimage like rhels6.4-x86_64-install-service) and xCAT rpm repository.
> >
> > Generally, the /tftpboot and /install on SN are mounted from xCAT MN, so
> > them will be identical with the dirs on MN in any time.
> >
> > SN cannot work without MN since there's only one database which is
> running
> > on MN. If MN is down you cannot run lots of commands on SN. In fact xCAT
> > does NOT recommend to run any command on SN.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> > Best Regards
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Wang Xiaopeng (王晓朋)
> > IBM China System Technology Laboratory
> > Tel: 86-10-82453455
> > Email: w...@cn.ibm.com
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> Haidian
> > District Beijing P.R.China 100193
> >
> > Josh Nielsen ---2014/01/09 03:48:01---Hi Russell, For some reason that
> wiki
> > page never came up in my Google searches even
> >
> > From: Josh Nielsen <jniel...@hudsonalpha.org>
> > To: xCAT Users Mailing list <xcat-user@lists.sourceforge.net>,
> > Date: 2014/01/09 03:48
> > Subject: Re: [xcat-user] How to create and deploy an xCAT Service Node
> > ________________________________
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Russell,
> >
> > For some reason that wiki page never came up in my Google searches even
> when
> > I placed quotes around "service node". Thanks! I'll take a look through
> it.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Josh
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Russell Jones <
> russell-l...@jonesmail.me>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi Josh,
> >
> > This should be helpful for you (it was for me when first learning how to
> set
> > this up):
> >
> http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/xcat/index.php?title=Setting_Up_a_Linux_Hierarchical_Cluster
> >
> >
> >
> > On 1/8/2014 11:52 AM, Josh Nielsen wrote:
> >
> > Hello all,
> >
> > I am trying to move my xCAT installation toward a hierarchical structure
> by
> > including Service Nodes but I am finding a dearth of information on how
> to
> > create a service node on the xCAT wiki and even the Sumavi xCAT guide. At
> > first I began following the instructions for a setting up a management
> node
> > (which involves a new xCAT install, an independent xCAT database, etc.)
> on a
> > VM intended to the the SN but then realized that that must be wrong.
> >
> > I have noticed the xCAT 'servicenode' database table present on the
> > Management Node (listed with tabdump). I am wondering if I can simply
> > designate a new node (in my case a VM) to be the prospective SN,
> designate
> > which services (like dhcp, dns, etc.) to enable/disable in the
> 'servicenode'
> > table, and then do a fresh 'rinstall' to that VM and have it be
> > automatically & fully configured as an SN from postinstall scripts
> (which I
> > presume are already present and will be automatically applied to that
> node
> > by some xCAT logic of parsing the 'servicenode' table and associating any
> > relevant postscripts to be run with the node).
> >
> > If so will it create the /install and /tftpboot directories (including
> ISOs
> > made with copycds) on each SN identical to the contents of the MN? Is it
> > that simple or is there more involved than that?
> >
> > In addition I want to be able to take down the Management Node in the
> future
> > for maintenance and be able to do just about everything that the MN can
> do
> > from the SNs (including dhcp leases, rpower commands, updatenode, psh,
> etc)
> > while the MN is down. Is that possible? Any clarifications would be
> > appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Josh Nielsen
> >
> >
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