Hi Rachel
Let this "chaos" continue,our own Universe was created this way only.I am
confident that after this chaos "ebXML" will evolve as beautiful as our
Universe is.
Ashwani
>From: "Rachel Foerster" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: A FEW VERY SIMPLE QUESTION!!! OR Mine's Smaller than Yours
>Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 11:19:43 -0500
>
>Knock it off guys! This kind of �pissing up a rope� doesn�t advance the
>discussion or add new insights or knowledge. For heaven�s sake, lighten up
>and look for the underlying humor in many of these messages.
>
>Rachel
>|
>|
>|Dear William,
>|
>|Given your stature among the members of this list and
>|your legendary humor, I shouldn't even dare to deny
>|your insight in the minds of Kurt Svensson's and me.
>|But the fact is that I am the Technical Manager of a
>|GEIS VAN and I don't think that "Internet EDI using
>|Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill",
>|otherwise I won't be on this list.
>|I was only trying to give a SIMPLE and CLEAR answer
>|both theoretically and practically using a popular
>|Internet Age language.
>|
>|Regards,
>|Paul Aoun
>|--- "William J. Kammerer"
>|<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|> Paul Williams, of the Kellogg Company, asked some
>|> simple reasonable
>|> questions on how to move XML documents over the
>|> Internet, especially
>|> how addressability is handled.
>|>
>|> Addressability of business documents, whether X12,
>|> EDIFACT or
>|> RosettaNet, is usually based on a logical business
>|> identifier such as a
>|> DUNS, UCS ID, or EAN Location Number. One of a
>|> VAN's most important
>|> value-adds is to route documents based on these IDs
>|> to the intended
>|> recipient safely and securely. On the other hand,
>|> Internet EDI packages
>|> like 8760's GISBAgent or Cyclone Interchange (which
>|> are based on
>|> interoperable standards) require some sort of setup
>|> to equate the
>|> logical business ID with Internet addresses. Add
>|> in key maintenance,
>|> certificate exchange, etc. etc., and the maintenance
>|> headaches add up
>|> quickly, perhaps allowing us to better appreciate
>|> the services of a VAN.
>|> Also, don't forget to throw in the intimate
>|> relationship you need with
>|> the corporate *NETWORK MAN* (i.e., the need to
>|> listen to his tirades
>|> against Bill Gates) to get past firewalls and do
>|> that mumbo-jumbo with
>|> proxy servers and port addresses.
>|>
>|> IT Man, a.k.a. Paul Aoun, seems to think that both
>|> Internet EDI using
>|> Interoperable standards and VANs are overkill. He
>|> instead says
>|> everything Paul needs can be done in a snippet of
>|> Java code for *FREE*.
>|> Now, IT Man and Kurt Svensson have squared off in a
>|> perverse duel,
>|> goaded on by Brian Curtis, to establish their
>|> alpha-male position;
>|> except in this case, he who has the *SMALLER* one
>|> wins.
>|>
>|> Of course, I have no interest in reading any code
>|> which has no comments.
>|> But from the little bit I saw of either IT Man's or
>|> Kurt's code, I don't
>|> understand what all the stuff about doing queries
>|> against a database has
>|> to do with the demo. Paul Williams asked about
>|> sending an *XML
>|> document* across the internet; is it really of any
>|> interest how that
>|> document is created? - it just confuses the issue.
>|>
>|> But I'm going to assume Paul has serious needs (and
>|> I won't even
>|> question here why he's using XML). If he's not
>|> interested in the VAN or
>|> Internet EDI (i.e., those which use interoperable
>|> standards) solutions,
>|> then he might also consider OnDisplay's *FREE* "B2B
>|> XML server for
>|> secure, reliable information delivery over the
>|> Internet - XML Connect,"
>|> at http://www.xmlconnect.net/xmlconnect/.
>|>
>|> William J. Kammerer
>|> FORESIGHT Corp.
>|> 4950 Blazer Memorial Pkwy.
>|> Dublin, OH USA 43017-3305
>|> +1 614 791-1600
>|>
>|> Visit FORESIGHT Corp. at
>|> http://www.foresightcorp.com/
>|> "Commerce for a New World"
>|>
>|>
>|>
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