Your response is in bad faith, Cde Palma. In fact it is you who is changing the basis of your complaint, as anyone will see by comparing your new message with your previous one.
Your complaint now turns on a liberal, petty-bourgeois insinuation about salaries. For heaven's sake, comrade! You surely can't be serious. I predict that you will now find other grounds again from which to pop at the GS - grounds that are even further removed from serious politics. You are actually doing us a favour, Cde Palma. You are exposing the weakness of the "day-dreaming drunkard" attack on the General Secretary of the SACP. We have no other conclusion to make than that it is a disguised attack on the SACP itself. Down with the day-dreaming drunkards, down, down! VC 2009/11/9 Adriano Palma <[email protected]> Dear [email protected] > your view have been noted. You answered none of the questions asked. In > particular you have not explained at all why someone would have to receive > two salaries. > > > > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > ξε ν’, γγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ἀ ὅτι τ δε > κείμεθα, το ς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι. > /begin/read__>sig.file: postal address > palma > University of KwaZulu-Natal Philosophy > 3rd floor of Memorial Tower Building > Howard College Campus > Durban 4041 > South Africa > Tel off: [+27] 031 2601591 (sec: Mrs. Yolanda Hordyk) [+27] 031-2602292 > Fax [+27] 031-2603031 > mobile 07 62 36 23 91 calling from overseas +[27] 76 2362391 > EMAIL: [email protected] > EMAIL: [email protected] > MY OFFICE # IS 2...@mtb > *only when in Europe*: inst. J. Nicod > 29 rue d'Ulm > f-75005 paris france > email me for details if needed at [email protected] > ________ > This e-mail message (and attachments) is confidential, and/or privileged > and is intended for the > use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this > e-mail you must not copy, > distribute, take any action in reliance on it or disclose it to anyone. Any > confidentiality or > privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. > This entity is not responsible for any information not related to the > business of this entity. If you > received this e-mail in error please destroy the original and notify the > sender. > > >>> Dominic Tweedie <[email protected]> 11/9/2009 11:14 AM >>> > > Comrade Adriano Palma, > > Your message is pregnant with innuendo but it is really based on a fallacy. > > The fallacy is that the elected General Secretary of the Party whether > salaried full time or not, can be prevented from holding office in other > structures. > > On the contrary, if the General Secretary did not have any responsibilities > in other structures he would be severely failing. > > Like any other Party member, full time salaried or not, he is expected, > among others, to: > > "4.2 Organise, educate and lead the working class in the struggle for > socialism and the more immediate objectives of defending and deepening the > national democratic revolution and of achieving national and social > emancipation. > > "5.9.4 Serve the masses, strengthen ties with them, learn from them, convey > their aspirations to the SACP and work in mass organisations within the > framework of SACP policies and programmes. > > "5.11 Every person who joins the SACP must pledge as follows: > > I accept the aims and objectives of the SACP and agree to abide by its > Constitution and loyally to carry out the decisions of the Party. > > I shall strive to live up to the ideals of Communism and shall selflessly > serve the workers and the poor and the country, always placing the interests > of the Party and the workers and the poor above personal interests." > > "6.4 Members active in fraternal organisations or in any sector of the mass > movement have a duty to set an example of loyalty, hard work and zeal in the > performance of their duties and shall be bound by the discipline and > decisions of such organisations and movement. They shall not create or > participate in SACP caucuses within such organisations and movements > designed to influence either elections or policies. The advocacy of SACP > policy on any question relating to the internal affairs of any such > organisations or movements shall be by open public statements or at joint > meetings between representatives of the SACP and such organisations or > movements." > > Perhaps you thought that being a communist means living in an ivory tower? > In that case you have misunderstood the communist party altogether, comrade. > > Maybe you had just temporarily forgotten that the role of the vanguard is > to be with the masses? Or perhaps you thought that the GS was a different > kind of communist from the rest of us, and is not only exempt but even > prohibited from given leadership in mass formations? Then you are mistaken, > my brother. > > Or perhaps you thought there is something qualitatively different about > being a Minister? If the latter, comrade, then I think that you are > labouring under a bourgeois delusion in this regard. > > This GS is under no such prohibitions as you suggest, comrade. This GS and > all General Secretaries of the SACP will do simultaneous duty in other > structures, like all of us do, and are obliged to do. > > Let it be noted for the record: *This VC supports our Comrade SACP General > Secretary Dr Blade Nzimande!* > > Domza, VC, CU! > > > > Adriano Palma wrote: > > It just so appears that C.de Blade is a Minister and there is > incompatibility between gvt posts and the sec general of Sacp, since, ex > proviso 11 of the constitution of SACp. It would appear that being full-time > entails that you hold no other job. > Would you care to explain? > > > > *11. DUTIES OF THE GENERAL SECRETARY* > > The General Secretary shall be the leading National Office Bearer of the > SACP and a full-time official under conditions of service determined by the > CC. The General Secretary shall be an ex officio member of all party > structures and shall: > > 11.1 Keep (or cause to be kept) the minutes of all CC and PB meetings and > such other books, records and archives as may be required. > > 11.2 Attend to the correspondence of the CC and PB. > > 11.3 Maintain regular personal and written contact with all the provinces > and keep the membership informed of the work of the CC and PB. > > 11.4 Ensure that members of the CC are kept informed of the work of the PB > in between meetings of the CC. > > 11.5 Draw up (or cause to be drawn up) all reports and documents as may be > decided upon by the CC or PB. > > 11.6 The Deputy General Secretary shall, as directed by the CC, deputise > for the General Secretary in respect of all the functions set out above. > > ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| > ξε ν’, γγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ἀ ὅτι τ δε > κείμεθα, το ς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι. > /begin/read__>sig.file: postal address > palma > University of KwaZulu-Natal Philosophy > 3rd floor of Memorial Tower Building > Howard College Campus > Durban 4041 > South Africa > Tel off: [+27] 031 2601591 (sec: Mrs. Yolanda Hordyk) [+27] 031-2602292 > Fax [+27] 031-2603031 > mobile 07 62 36 23 91 calling from overseas +[27] 76 2362391 > EMAIL: [email protected] > EMAIL: [email protected] > MY OFFICE # IS 2...@mtb > *only when in Europe*: inst. J. Nicod > 29 rue d'Ulm > f-75005 paris france > email me for details if needed at [email protected] > ________ > This e-mail message (and attachments) is confidential, and/or privileged > and is intended for the > use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this > e-mail you must not copy, > distribute, take any action in reliance on it or disclose it to anyone. Any > confidentiality or > privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. > This entity is not responsible for any information not related to the > business of this entity. If you > received this e-mail in error please destroy the original and notify the > sender. > > > > >>> Dominic Tweedie > >>> <[email protected]><[email protected]>11/9/2009 9:57 AM > >>> >>> > > <!--[if !v ml]--><!--[endif]--> > > > *Blade 'safe from drunk dreamers'* > > > *Nkosana Lekotjolo, The Times, Johanesburg, 8 November 2009 * > > SA Communist Party youth leader Buti Manamela has warned "drunkards" in his > organisation not to attempt to unseat the party's general secretary, Blade > Nzimande, at the national conference scheduled for next month in Polokwane. > > Speaking to close to a thousand members in Rustenburg at the end of the > party's Red October campaign, Manamela said those gunning for Nzimande and > who want to change the leadership are "drunkards" who are "day-dreaming." > > "We are going to the special congress of the SACP. We know that there are > people who think they are going to use that congress to behead the general > secretary of the SACP and will want to change the leadership of the SACP. > > "It's a small minority. It's people who are dreaming while walking. It's > people who live in fantasies. It's not going to happen," said Manamela. > > He said the Communist Party's youth wing will ensure that Nzimande remains > at the helm of the SACP at the party's congress, at which leadership > elections will be held. > > "Nobody will ever change the leadership of the SACP at the special > congress. They will have to pass through us as the Young Communist League. > > "We are not even worried because it's one or two drinking buddies who are > either in bedrooms or boardrooms, and begin to discuss the leadership of the > SACP," he said. > > The youth leader said they were unfazed by the calls for Nzimande to quit > and for changes in the leadership. > > "We must say to them, keep dreaming, keep walking, keep being drunk - it's > not going to happen. > > "Come January next year, Blade Nzimande will still be the general secretary > of the SACP," he said to the cheering crowd. > > Manamela also slammed those who say that the SACP has acquired a lot of > influence in the tripartite alliance. > > "We will not allow our mother body, the SACP, to be pushed out of the > alliance. We hope Cosatu holds the same view. Those who say the alliance is > going to the left, where do they want it to go? Do they want it to go to the > right? > > "That's not what the alliance is for. We are not going to watch as people > trample on it." > > *From: http://www.timeslive.co.za/news/article185286.ece* > > > > > > Please find our Email Disclaimer here-->: * > http://www.ukzn.ac.za/disclaimer* > > > > > > > Please find our Email Disclaimer here-->: *http://www.ukzn.ac.za/disclaimer > * > -- Blog at: http://domza.blogspot.com/ Communist University web site at: http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ Subscribe for free e-mail updates at: http://groups.google.com/group/Communist-University/ Library of documents (CU "CD") at: http://cu.domza.net/ [email protected] -- Blog at: http://domza.blogspot.com/ Communist University web site at: http://amadlandawonye.wikispaces.com/ Subscribe for free e-mail updates at: http://groups.google.com/group/Communist-University/ Library of documents (CU "CD") at: http://cu.domza.net/ [email protected] --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You are subscribed. This footer can help you. 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