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Dear C.de Vilakazi, my humble opinion is extremely simple. 1. sacp is unable and won't be able in any foreseeable future to have any significant electoral foothold hence 1.2 the alliance with the Anc is paramount 2. the position of nzimande & cronin is determined by anc decisions and not by sacp 3. it would be very good if 3.1 the costititution is amended as to not require the gen sec of sacp to be fulltime working for sacp 3.2 it would be equally good if not better if nzimande & cronin while retaining their positions were to donate their salaries to sacp. sacp will have then the money to repay some debts (it appears but ifyou know more do let me know) that in the EC (eastern cape) n. Mandela university there is an outstandign debt never repaid. it would do quite a bit of good to sacp and its reputation with the people if such behaviour were not to repeat ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ξε ν’, γγέλλειν Λακεδαιμονίοις ἀ ὅτι τ δε κείμεθα, το ς κείνων ῥήμασι πειθόμενοι. /begin/read__>sig.file: postal address palma University of KwaZulu-Natal Philosophy 3rd floor of Memorial Tower Building Howard College Campus Durban 4041 South Africa Tel off: [+27] 031 2601591 (sec: Mrs. Yolanda Hordyk) [+27] 031-2602292 Fax [+27] 031-2603031 mobile 07 62 36 23 91 calling from overseas +[27] 76 2362391 EMAIL: [email protected] EMAIL: [email protected] MY OFFICE # IS 2...@mtb *only when in Europe*: inst. J. Nicod 29 rue d'Ulm f-75005 paris france email me for details if needed at [email protected] ________ This e-mail message (and attachments) is confidential, and/or privileged and is intended for the use of the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient of this e-mail you must not copy, distribute, take any action in reliance on it or disclose it to anyone. Any confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost by reason of mistaken delivery to you. This entity is not responsible for any information not related to the business of this entity. If you received this e-mail in error please destroy the original and notify the sender. >>> "Mduduzi H Vilakazi" <[email protected]> 11/9/2009 12:29 PM >>> Cde Palma and VC, We have not started the conference but you behave like people who are standing alongside each other with differing preferences. Both your behavior in this forum is unhealthy. We always learn from you but you have started personal attacks which is something that this forum is about. Can you both act maturely? I just want an explanation as to what full time mean and why is it not written in constitutional provisions of other office bearers and solely on that of the GS. Let the answer be on the "full time" as enshrined in the constitution. I am not in the angle of sources of income because I do not believe that Cde Blade took office for the income attached to it but rather for his commitment to serve the organisation. I am happy with the way Cde Blade handle matters of the organisation and have nothing against his occupation of the office. I, however, believe that "full-time" means that the person should be available at working times in the office of the organisation except when on organisational duty outside the office. If my understanding is wrong can someone advice? My support for Cde Blade is on the basis that the constitution be changed. It may sound like a personal issue that a constitution is changed to accommodate him but we are comfortable with him. At times conditions dictates that amendments be made to suit a current situation. 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