Comrades,
1.Lets harness what the YL is saying and further campaign for the
transformation of the already existing state institutions.
2. Lets rally all former workers in the former IDZ's and rally them around
the formation of the co-operative movement.
3.lets call the government to fund the co-operative movement.
4. tthe banks should should dedicate 25% otf their assets to funding the
co-operative movement.
5 lets pilot the formation of joint-worker management committes in SOEs...

those are the things that we could rather be saying than OPPOSING
nationalisation at this stage...LET US COME SUPPORTING NATIONALISATION WITH
A VIEW TO TRANSFORM SUCH INSTUTUIONS TO OUR MODEL...

Communists are supposed to be independent thinkers...not mimickers...lets
reason together...

Xoli

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Sithembewena tsembeyi
<[email protected]>wrote:

>   I think and believe that the future of our country is in the wrong
> hands. The ANCYL is starting to show signs of tyranny, they are behaving as
> anarcho-syndicalists by predicting the future(incorrectly so). What on earth
> will make the current NEC of the ANCYL not to see whats coming their way but
> focus on matters they will not have impact on. They (ANCYL NEC) have just
> released a fortune telling statement saying Mantashe is a goner. The YL has
> seriously missed a fundamental point by jumping the gun, not realizing what
> comes first. When young people assemble in the forth coming national
> conference of the YL, Mantashe will not be the one whose head will be on the
> block but the dogmatists and empiricists led by the Juju-man. My fears are
> that as it was the case with Mbalula, these confused molecules and factory
> faults the ANC will want to postpone the YL conference to suit their own pro
> imperialist agenda. What the YL was supposed to be pre-occupied with, was
> the preparation of their national conference. For the Malema led crop of
> leadership to out vote anyone in 2012, they first have to convince their ANC
> branches that they can infact make better delegates than the rest of the
> cdes at their respective branches.
>
> It seem as though that the ANCYL has transformed principle of political
> endurance to rhetoric, Sangoma and  fascist take over, and sickened by the
> ongoing ill-discipline of some comrades within our revolutionary structures
> of the ANCYL, we as the members of the YL should note it clearly that
> factionalism is infact a turmoil to fly in development, staging for some
> seem to be a habit and relevantly some have taken a conscious decision to be
> addicts of Dramatization of politics, well SABC has auditions for such this
> year.
>
> We should also note that the ANCYL in its last conference had shown its
> inability to know how conferences are runned and a fair reminder to them, as
> fully flashed members of the ANC disciplined as we are shall we never allow
> such historical notorious transgressions to unfold (showing of bums).
>
> Well shooo!! taking a breath from all this, I safely would note that
> Comrade Secretary General of the ANC would remain as such till  the next
> conference in 2012, a note to even MBAKS not to fall to a dip-trap, is that,
> contestation for the next conference is not yet open nor can any one be
> available before branches of the ANC pronounce in the matter. Evenly most is
> that not even the branches of the ANCYL  has had a bite in the matter, these
> are crass led insinuations by a few non-conscious members of the ANCYL,
> eventually it should also be noted that the YL is hugely failing to launch
> or sustain its branches and the tricky part is that this madness of bling
> addicts they don't even care, nor do branches of the YL agree to such.
>
> To the many remaing disciplined comrade "Ovuka 'yibambe" let us put more
> energy in building a developmental state, that shall seek to address firmly
> and with a revolutionary aspiration of bettering the lifes of our poeple.
> One of the fandamental things to learn is that there are fundamental
> deference between us and them as human-being and them men kind truth is that
>
>
> Mankind and human society are in process of historical development. When
> human society reached a certain historical stage, classes and class struggle
> emerged. Every member of a class society exists as a member of a given class
> and lives in given conditions of class struggle. Man’s social being
> determines his consciousness. In class society the ideology of the members
> of each class reflects a different position and different class interests.
> The class struggle constantly goes on among these classes with their
> different positions, interests and ideologies. Thus it is not only in the
> struggle against nature but in the struggle of social classes that men
> change nature, change society and at the same time change themselves.
>
>
> So we may not worry not of barbaric distortions, hipnotised by some few for
> themselves to believe, to meditate your own fantasies poses as a treath for
> one to believe the lies he daily tels himself.
>
> --- On *Mon, 2/1/10, Gugu Ndima <[email protected]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Gugu Ndima <[email protected]>
> Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Mantashe is a goner, says Malema -The Times
> To: [email protected]
> Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 8:35 PM
>
>
>  Mantashe is a goner, says Malema ANCYL publicly endorses Fikile Mbalula
> for top job
>
> Feb 1, 2010 10:44 PM | By DOMINIC MAHLANGU
> ------------------------------
> Julius Malema's ANC Youth League made clear its intention to topple the
> ruling party's secretary-general, Gwede Mantashe, and have him replaced by
> Deputy Minister of Police Fikile Mbalula.
> ------------------------------
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> [image: NO BLACKMAILER: Julius Malema at the ANCYL lekgotla Picture:
> ELIZABETH SEJAKE]
> NO BLACKMAILER: Julius Malema at the ANCYL lekgotla Picture: ELIZABETH
> SEJAKE
>
> In song and statements at the conclusion of its three-day national
> executive committee lekgotla, youth league leaders publicly endorsed Mbalula
> as their candidate for the third-most powerful position in the ruling party.
>
>
> Though the ANC will not have an elective national conference until December
> 2012, Malema said yesterday that the league's campaign for Mbalula, who was
> once its president, will be officially launched at the ANC national general
> conference in August.
>
> The lekgotla was held in Muldersdrift, west of Johannesburg.
>
> Just before Malema spoke at a press conference on the outcomes of the
> meeting, youth league NEC members broke into old liberation struggle songs
> that had been modified into pro-Mbalula ditties.
>
> "In 2012, in Bloemfontein, we want Mbalula [as secretary-general of the
> ANC]," went one of the songs.
>
> As the group sang and danced, a jovial Malema joined in.
>
> He told journalists that the songs in support of Mbalula were justified.
>
> "We sing about people who share the same perspective with us. Anybody who
> has taken a posture and defined himself as against the ANC Youth League,
> such an individual runs the risk of losing the support of the youth league.
>
> "They take decisions to isolate the youth league and attack it. They think
> they are so powerful they can undermine the youth league. We will
> demonstrate our power in 2012," Malema warned.
>
> His conflict with Mantashe began late last year and is linked to the
> continuing power struggle between "nationalists" and "leftists" in the
> ANC-led alliance.
>
> Mantashe, who is also national chairman of the SA Communist Party, is seen
> by Malema and other "nationalists" as one of the leaders of a "communist
> plot" to "take over" the ANC from within.
>
> Though Malema's campaign appears to have the support of a number of ANC
> leaders who are uneasy about the communists' growing influence in the ruling
> party, he has recently suffered a number of defeats at the hands of the
> "left".
>
> This includes the recent failed attempt to have the ANC leadership censure
> Mantashe for not taking strong action against Communist Party delegates who
> booed Malema at the party's special congress in December.
>
> But Malema yesterday said his faction's power would be fully appreciated
> during the ANC national general conference in Durban in August.
>
> "The singing and dancing will tell you what will happen in 2012," he said.
>
> He said the youth league will accept only those ANC leaders who agree with
> its policies - including his call for the nationalisation of the mines.
>
> "It's not about personalities, it's about principles."
>
> He said the youth league's stance should not be seen as "blackmail".
>
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