Comrade Xoli
sometimes understanding these things its not as easy as you would prefer it to
be, categorically we all understand the point you trying to push, but however I
think it lacks analysis and this defeats our principles as the Marxist... I
have learn over the short years of my existence that we should verify however
Our
Communist self-cultivation is the kind essential to proletarian
revolutionaries. It must not be divorced from revolutionary practice
or from the actual revolutionary movements of the labouring masses,
and especially of the proletarian masses.
comrade Xoli I plea you to go pretentiously to historical factors that A is
not equals to A, and the Nationalisation that is pro-led and self attached by
comrade Malema and Floyd may not be the same Nationalisation that we as
communist can anticipate and in this it create a curiosity in some of us and as
Comrade
Mao Zedong has said:
“Discover
the truth through practice, and again through practice verify and
develop the truth. Start from perceptual knowledge and actively
develop it into rational knowledge; then start from rational
knowledge and actively guide revolutionary practice to change both
the subjective and the objective world. Practice, knowledge, again
practice and again knowledge. This form repeats itself in endless
cycles, and with each cycle the content the content of practice and
knowledge rises to a higher level. Such is the whole of the
dialectical-materialist theory of knowledge, and such is the
dialectical-materialist theory of the unity of knowing and doing.”, so it is
equally important to note that as communist
we
should therefore see ourselves as in need of change and capable of
being changed. We should not look upon ourselves as immutable,
perfect and sacrosanct, as persons who need not and cannot be
changed. When we pose the task of remoulding ourselves in social
struggle, we are not demeaning ourselves; the objective laws of
social development demand it. Unless we do so, we cannot make
progress, or fulfill the task of changing society.
Farly our role in leading and waging the class struggle should not in this
instance be compromised by crass and bling fantasy that could create a
sophisticated lumpen-Bourgeoisie society such that of the likes.
Lastly we should in this case note that
we
Communists are the most advanced revolutionaries in modern history;
to day the changing of society and the world rests upon us and we are
the driving force in this change. It is by unremitting struggle
against counter-revolutionaries
that we Communists change society and the world, and at the same time
ourselves.
The shoots that we take tron to us came at the form of attack to our leaders
just to discredit us from our contemporary core.
--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Xoli Dlabantu <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Xoli Dlabantu <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Mantashe is a goner, says Malema -The Times
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 1:02 AM
Comrades,
1.Lets harness what the YL is saying and further campaign for the
transformation of the already existing state institutions.
2. Lets rally all former workers in the former IDZ's and rally them around the
formation of the co-operative movement.
3.lets call the government to fund the co-operative movement.
4. tthe banks should should dedicate 25% otf their assets to funding the
co-operative movement.
5 lets pilot the formation of joint-worker management committes in SOEs...
those are the things that we could rather be saying than OPPOSING
nationalisation at this stage...LET US COME SUPPORTING NATIONALISATION WITH A
VIEW TO TRANSFORM SUCH INSTUTUIONS TO OUR MODEL...
Communists are supposed to be independent thinkers...not mimickers...lets
reason together...
Xoli
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Sithembewena tsembeyi <[email protected]>
wrote:
I think and believe that the future of our country is in the wrong hands. The
ANCYL is starting to show signs of tyranny, they are behaving as
anarcho-syndicalists by predicting the future(incorrectly so). What on earth
will make the current NEC of the ANCYL not to see whats coming their way but
focus on matters they will not have impact on. They (ANCYL NEC) have just
released a fortune telling statement saying Mantashe is a goner. The YL has
seriously missed a fundamental point by jumping the gun, not realizing what
comes first. When young people assemble in the forth coming national conference
of the YL, Mantashe will not be the one whose head will be on the block but the
dogmatists and empiricists led by the Juju-man. My fears are that as it was the
case with Mbalula, these confused molecules and factory faults the ANC will
want to postpone the YL conference to suit their own pro imperialist agenda.
What the YL was supposed to be pre-occupied with,
was the preparation of their national conference. For the Malema led crop of
leadership to out vote anyone in 2012, they first have to convince their ANC
branches that they can infact make better delegates than the rest of the cdes
at their respective branches.
It seem as though that the ANCYL has transformed principle of political
endurance to rhetoric, Sangoma and fascist take over, and sickened by the
ongoing ill-discipline of some comrades within our revolutionary structures of
the ANCYL, we as the members of the YL should note it clearly that factionalism
is infact a turmoil to fly in development, staging for some seem to be a habit
and relevantly some have taken a conscious decision to be addicts of
Dramatization of politics, well SABC has auditions for such this year.
We should also note that the ANCYL in its last conference had shown its
inability to know how conferences are runned and a fair reminder to them, as
fully flashed members of the ANC disciplined as we are shall we never allow
such historical notorious transgressions to unfold (showing of bums).
Well shooo!! taking a breath from all this, I safely would note that Comrade
Secretary General of the ANC would remain as such till the next conference in
2012, a note to even MBAKS not to fall to a dip-trap, is that, contestation for
the next conference is not yet open nor can any one be available before
branches of the ANC pronounce in the matter. Evenly most is that not even the
branches of the ANCYL has had a bite in the matter, these are crass led
insinuations by a few non-conscious members of the ANCYL, eventually it should
also be noted that the YL is hugely failing to launch or sustain its branches
and the tricky part is that this madness of bling addicts they don't even care,
nor do branches of the YL agree to such.
To the many remaing disciplined comrade "Ovuka 'yibambe" let us put more energy
in building a developmental state, that shall seek to address firmly and with a
revolutionary aspiration of bettering the lifes of our poeple. One of the
fandamental things to learn is that there are fundamental deference between us
and them as human-being and them men kind truth is that
Mankind and human society are in process of historical development. When human
society reached a certain historical stage, classes and class struggle emerged.
Every member of a class society exists as a member of a given class and lives
in given conditions of class struggle. Man’s social being determines his
consciousness. In class society the ideology of the members of each class
reflects a different position and different class interests. The class struggle
constantly goes on among these classes with their different positions,
interests and ideologies. Thus it is not only in the struggle against nature
but in the struggle of social classes that men change nature, change society
and at the same time change themselves.
So we may not worry not of barbaric distortions, hipnotised by some few for
themselves to believe, to meditate your own fantasies poses as a treath for one
to believe the lies he daily tels himself.
--- On Mon, 2/1/10, Gugu Ndima <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Gugu Ndima <[email protected]>
Subject: [YCLSA Discussion] Mantashe is a goner, says Malema -The Times
To: [email protected]
Date: Monday, February 1, 2010, 8:35 PM
Mantashe is a goner, says Malema
ANCYL publicly endorses Fikile Mbalula for top job
Feb 1, 2010 10:44 PM | By DOMINIC MAHLANGU
Julius Malema's ANC Youth League made clear its intention to topple the ruling
party's secretary-general, Gwede Mantashe, and have him replaced by Deputy
Minister of Police Fikile Mbalula.
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NO BLACKMAILER: Julius Malema at the ANCYL lekgotla Picture: ELIZABETH SEJAKE
In song and statements at the conclusion of its three-day national executive
committee lekgotla, youth league leaders publicly endorsed Mbalula as their
candidate for the third-most powerful position in the ruling party.
Though the ANC will not have an elective national conference until December
2012, Malema said yesterday that the league's campaign for Mbalula, who was
once its president, will be officially launched at the ANC national general
conference in August.
The lekgotla was held in Muldersdrift, west of Johannesburg.
Just before Malema spoke at a press conference on the outcomes of the meeting,
youth league NEC members broke into old liberation struggle songs that had been
modified into pro-Mbalula ditties.
"In 2012, in Bloemfontein, we want Mbalula [as secretary-general of the ANC],"
went one of the songs.
As the group sang and danced, a jovial Malema joined in.
He told journalists that the songs in support of Mbalula were justified.
"We sing about people who share the same perspective with us. Anybody who has
taken a posture and defined himself as against the ANC Youth League, such an
individual runs the risk of losing the support of the youth league.
"They take decisions to isolate the youth league and attack it. They think they
are so powerful they can undermine the youth league. We will demonstrate our
power in 2012," Malema warned.
His conflict with Mantashe began late last year and is linked to the continuing
power struggle between "nationalists" and "leftists" in the ANC-led alliance.
Mantashe, who is also national chairman of the SA Communist Party, is seen by
Malema and other "nationalists" as one of the leaders of a "communist plot" to
"take over" the ANC from within.
Though Malema's campaign appears to have the support of a number of ANC leaders
who are uneasy about the communists' growing influence in the ruling party, he
has recently suffered a number of defeats at the hands of the "left".
This includes the recent failed attempt to have the ANC leadership censure
Mantashe for not taking strong action against Communist Party delegates who
booed Malema at the party's special congress in December.
But Malema yesterday said his faction's power would be fully appreciated during
the ANC national general conference in Durban in August.
"The singing and dancing will tell you what will happen in 2012," he said.
He said the youth league will accept only those ANC leaders who agree with its
policies - including his call for the nationalisation of the mines.
"It's not about personalities, it's about principles."
He said the youth league's stance should not be seen as "blackmail".
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