If one follows your logic, then the ANC ceases to be a broad church. It is slowly but surely becoming a socialist or communist organisation. I doubt if your analysis and reading of the of the ANC is accurate. If that is the case, why is the remains a political centre not the Alliance as some of the Left forces would like the situation to be. The ANC is forever contested by the contending class forces that you find within its own ranks. The misreading of the Polokwane outcome continues to baffle me. But, only time will tell.
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:52 PM, Sithembewena tsembeyi <[email protected]>wrote: > I think Zamikhaya and others your defenatly falling in to the trap, and > gradually missing the point here, it is not through these few hooligans that > the conference will be determined. However there is a fundamental reality > that credibility will be the menu of the day.. > > Maybe you have no realization that the ANC led alliance is confiscated > through all the alliance partners and this merely means that ANC has by its > own right a right to forward its mandatory elements in the discussion as per > say. But what they fail to understand that over 90 % of members of the ANC > are from left formation that is the affiliates of COSATU and also members > of the communist party are by their own right members of the ANC too, this > serve to say that they as members of ANC are constitutionally allowed to > participate in nomination electing etc. towards the conference and make no > mistake all members of the ANC know their true leaders and will not be > fooled by these nonsensical public staging by some. > > So what is key to us is to reflect to realistic issues that they are at > utmost trying to intimidate us not to participate as they have realised > classical ideological content. > > I participate in the Branch of the ANC every Monday and for every meeting I > have learnt that pro-nationalist, with liberal tendencies and their forever > aspirations for capital, corruption, riches and the likes will forever fill > threatened by those that lead clarity on paramount issues. > > --- On *Wed, 2/3/10, Zamikhaya Maseti <[email protected]>* wrote: > > > From: Zamikhaya Maseti <[email protected]> > > Subject: Re: [YCLSA Discussion] Mantashe is a goner, says Malema -The Times > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 2:34 AM > > If Gwede goes as the Youth League wants, that will mean that both COSATU > and the SACP have no influence over the ANC. If he stays that will confirm > the strenghth of the Left. The question is:what is it that you are doing on > the ground to make sure that all your cadres stay, it's not just Gwede > alone. This is the question which in my view should preoccupy of all > Communists, young and old. > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 7:40 AM, > <[email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> Qabane, cde mantashe articulates the decisions of the ANC as ANC GS and >> articulates the views of the SACP as SACP chairperson and let us not >> confuse his different roles. Infact I agree with the view that we need to >> have more radical approach but that can not be done by Gwede alone as ANC >> GS. That can be done by being more influencial to ANC NEC at large, become >> more influencial in all structures of ANC in particular and ultimately to >> have more radical change in ANC policies during ANC policy conferences and >> congresses. >> >> Cdes im very worried by the silence of SACP, COSATU AND YCL in issue of >> nationalisation of mines even if we dont agree with ANCYL version we must >> put more flash on it. May that is why we hear likes of Shabangu so strong >> about impossibility of nationalisation of mines and i wonder why. Infact >> cdes, there might be a reason beind the ANCYL call which we might not know >> but one will ask what is our position. >> >> Malemas say that Gwede is a goner might not be undermined maqabane. Malema >> thinks he is the POWER HOUSE of this ANC led movement and we must teach >> him a lesson. Cdes if we allow Gwede to be out voted, that will mean we >> are not at all ready to start building socialism. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> South Africa's premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> For super low premiums, click here http://home.webmail.co.za/dd.pwm >> >> -- >> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >> Please POST your comments to >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>or >> reply to this message. >> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >> options, pages, files and membership. >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >> [email protected]<http://mc/[email protected]>. >> You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to >> put anything in the message part. 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