Greetings It always fascinates me how comrades are so quick to label others as cheer leaders, yet they have their pom poms in hand about to do a routine and sing Rah, Rah, Ri !!- like Cde Mzizana and Sive.
Comrades your inputs are merely waffles of praise singing, and lack objectivity. None of you answers why SASCO failed to reprimand Cde Julius last year, at the said SASCO event as the 'hate speech' remarks where made there. Surely if comrades are honest they could have raised this within BEC, REC, PEC and NEC meetings throughout last year. But instead the very SASCO members and leadership remained mum about their grievances, and invited Cde Julius to speak at yet another SASCO gathering (16th National Congress) where he was greeted and welcomed with enthusiastic cheers, song and dance throughout his stay. Now who's playing who. Surely SASCO did not need the verdict for it to remember to articulate its disgruntled views? If such be the case than the problem is far greater than I had anticipated. The leadership of SASCO must be honest with us, this is nothing but a cheap politicking exercise geared at positionsing itself. Differences in views are healthy and welcomed within the PYA and MDM broadly, but such should be honest and in good faith, and SASCO in this instance is peddling and spewing dirty water. On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:57 PM, sive gumenge <[email protected]>wrote: > Greetings, > > I welcome the input by Cde Mzizana (Chair of SASCO, Western Cape) > > The issue of "comrades" doing things on their personal account and wanting > structures to defend them at times of accountability, ought to come to an > end. SASCO is not wrong by defending state institutions when it deems it fit > like it defends the movement when it is under attack. Why can't we applaud > SASCO by doing that and not find it as an attack on Malema? > > PYA is not a "sole" organisation but an alliance based on certain > common progressive programmes, visions and the defence of the Mass > Democtratic Movement at large against forces of doom. Cde Malema is not the > PYA, he forms part of leadership of the structures that constitute it. SASCO > has demonstrated its progresiveness and not just be viewed by some as a > "little" young league or "little" YCL. Surely on this issue, SASCO has not > viewed things the same way as the YL and that must be respected. > > SASCO will not be threatened by anyone and it will not be a cheer leader > for anyone. > > Long Live SASCO. > > Madala > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:08 PM, Lungisa Mzizana <[email protected]>wrote: > >> In the current political discourse everyone is mobilised to be an "cheer >> leader" no more shall have any analysis that can be objective in >> discussions, An analysis is either aligned with a certain faction or with >> the "leadership debate" that seem to pre-occupie everyone in our movement. >> South African Student Congress is an Autonomous structure within the >> Progressive Youth Alliance and it therefore reserve its right to engage on >> any political debates with no consultation of anyone hence the release of >> the press statement, the statement is inline with the respect of the state >> institutions and understanding the judgement in its entirety. >> >> It is not an attack to the President of the Youth League but an objective >> anlysis of the judgement by the Equality court and the statement has got >> nothing to do with the leadership debate of 2012, if one argues that SASCO >> is engage in such then that person should be consistent with the analysis >> and go through the recent press release of SASCO, from the statement on the >> Alliance after the Special Congress of the SACP,on Minister Shabangu, to >> the statement on Minister Nyanda, further to the statement on the President >> of Youth League and be consistent in the analysis, but not to pick a >> particular statement an grandstand with it in a quest of political >> relevance, >> >> But the matter is everyone is eager that South African Students Congress >> should be its ally in their plan of stuffling debates in the interest of >> particular faction, which this pose a danger in the entire movement and >> create an organisation that cant criticaly engage on any issue but is >> surrounded with "yes leaders". >> >> SASCO remains an Autonomous student organisation which is neither a >> student wing nor a baby of any organisation and therefore we shall continue >> to occupy our space with no fear of any individual who would seek political >> relevance with us.... >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Lone Maxwell <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I read with utter disgust the celebratory statement by SASCO welcoming >>> the court verdict by the Equality court on Julius Malema. My initial thought >>> on the matter was to question how a supposedly progressive student formation >>> can ever celebrate a verdict on a complaint laid by the liberal and racist >>> Afriforum on one of its own. How does a PYA component resort to joining the >>> opposition in its attack against another PYA leader within the MDM. Perhaps >>> more puzzling is that the alleged ‘hate speech’ was said at a SASCO >>> gathering, and SASCO as an organization failed to correct or reprimand >>> Julius at that very gathering last year, let alone raise its >>> dissatisfaction. Instead his articulations where met with delight and cheers >>> from the audience including its leadership. This mischievousness with the >>> truth or sudden amnesia of the occurrence of events by SASCO is >>> questionable, and can only be deduced to reflect the highest form of >>> grandstanding and opportunism. The only conclusion one gathers from this is >>> that the leadership of SASCO is in a desperate attempt or quest to position >>> itself along the current 2012 debacles (inspite of the 16th National >>> Congress resolution against such), to the extent that it dishonestly >>> conjures up and clings to an event in history it had no problems with. The >>> tone and attacks on the ANCYL in the latest press releases sent under the >>> name of SASCO from the YCL Press Release account is perhaps a guiding clue >>> to the real misdemeanor behind the monkey business. >>> >>> Comradely yours >>> Lone Maxwell >>> Northern Cape >>> >>> -- >>> You are subscribed. This footer can help you. >>> Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply >>> to this message. >>> You can visit the group WEB SITE at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery >>> options, pages, files and membership. >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email >>> [email protected] . 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All you have to do is to send an e-mail to >> this address (repeat): [email protected] . >> > > > > -- > Sive "Madala" Gumenge > Young Communist League of South Africa > Deputy Secretary of Brian Bunting District > Western Cape > 076 894 5800 > > -- > You are subscribed. This footer can help you. > Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to > this message. > You can visit the group WEB SITE at > http://groups.google.com/group/yclsa-eom-forum for different delivery > options, pages, files and membership. > To UNSUBSCRIBE, please email [email protected]. > You don't have to put anything in the "Subject:" field. You don't have to > put anything in the message part. All you have to do is to send an e-mail to > this address (repeat): [email protected] . > -- You are subscribed. This footer can help you. Please POST your comments to [email protected] or reply to this message. 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